What are your thoughts on Santa?

I appreciated the fact that my parents didn't lie to me much about Santa. I think they tried and then gave up pretty quickly after I set a trap for the Tooth Fairy.
 
JoeEllison said:
I appreciated the fact that my parents didn't lie to me much about Santa. I think they tried and then gave up pretty quickly after I set a trap for the Tooth Fairy.
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Did it result in your father dangling suspended by one leg from the hallway ceiling?
 
I started questioning Santa when I began to notice price tags were left on most of or all of the toys he left. "Why would Santa have to buy toys for us at Zellers?" I would ask my little brother. As if he would know. "Maybe he ran out" he would say. Yeah, maybe. Or maybe it's really mom. Wahhhhhhhhhhh! She still leaves the tags on stuff.
 
I inherited a fine Santa suit from my dad so I often donate my time as Santa to local functions for the benefit of the children. You would be surprised how poorly behaved some children are. I don't find the children to blame -- I blame the single mothers of the offending children.

Believe it or not, once I put that Santa suit on I channel the spirit of St. Nicholas. He would never chasten a child but St. Nick belives in a firm hand with some of the moms.

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Merry Christmas from Senex!​
 
I can still remember figuring out there was no Santa when I was five years old, and thinking that my parents had done worse than lying, they had been treating me like a fool.
 
My father was an atheist who liked to kid around, and "Santa" was part of that.

Daddy, Santa is really you, right? etc.

I see no harm.
 
sinclairmcevoy said:
I'm listening to a radio show right now that has Santa on for the kids. I disagree with the fact that someone is promising kids things that they probably won't get. They phone in, say what they want for Christmas, and he says "Look for it under your tree, I'll try and get that for you."
I think it's setting some kids up for a let down. My daughter is only 3 months old but I'm already wondering about how to handle the Santa Claus thing. Do I tell her he's real, or say he's not?
Just wondering what others think about the whole Santa thing.
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As a father who also struggled a little tiny bit with this, I say let your child have the magic of the Santa fantasy for the few short years she will.

One of the most heartbreaking things I ever did was to tell my youngest, in 4th grade, that there was no Santa, ahead of some asswipe little snotnose spilling the beans for us (the older one figured it out after catching the "tooth fairy" at work, but din't tell us and din't tell lil' sis, either).

Her little face about made me want to cry.

Santa is fun. You don't have to go to the mall Santa or listen to radio programs like this...we never did. I read them "The Night Before Christmas" every Christmas Eve, and tucked them in and then spent the next 6 hours playing Santa, right down to sipping a bit of the milk (which I hate) and taking a bite from the cookie.

It was magical for them.

Don't rob your children of the magic and wonder of the world that is so new to them and theirs for so few years.

Tokie
 
Modified said:
I can still remember figuring out there was no Santa when I was five years old, and thinking that my parents had done worse than lying, they had been treating me like a fool.
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Wow, you must've been an exceptional 5-yr-old.

More likely, you are misremembering and worse, applying grown-up (I suppose) feelings and thinking to a situation you could not possibly have thought of that way at that age.

But go on believing that at 5 your were glowring at your parents from under hooded eyes as you opened your GI Joe or Transformers, because they were so happily treating you like a fool.

If it makes you feel better, anyway.

Best
Tokie
 
Senex said:
I inherited a fine Santa suit from my dad so I often donate my time as Santa to local functions for the benefit of the children. You would be surprised how poorly behaved some children are. I don't find the children to blame -- I blame the single mothers of the offending children.

Believe it or not, once I put that Santa suit on I channel the spirit of St. Nicholas. He would never chasten a child but St. Nick belives in a firm hand with some of the moms.

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Merry Christmas from Senex!​
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While I am not going to defend single-motherhood (at least the kind that is avoidable through not having kids out of wedlock or not getting divorced every time the husband of the particular week looks at you wrong), don't pin it all on them.

I know plenty of fathers who are either so disconected from their kids they have no control over them or who are even worse than bad mothers when it comes to this.

And I find them even more detestable...mothers and fathers both have differing roles in parenthood, and a present father should be the disciplinarian, even if his shrew-wife doesn't like it.

Tokie
 
Tokenconservative said:
While I am not going to defend single-motherhood (at least the kind that is avoidable through not having kids out of wedlock or not getting divorced every time the husband of the particular week looks at you wrong), don't pin it all on them.

I know plenty of fathers who are either so disconected from their kids they have no control over them or who are even worse than bad mothers when it comes to this.

And I find them even more detestable...mothers and fathers both have differing roles in parenthood, and a present father should be the disciplinarian, even if his shrew-wife doesn't like it.

Tokie
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Yes, but Santa's helpers have to pick and choose their demographics. As one of Santa's minions, I choose to engage the naughty single moms.
 
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Tell them the truth about Santa, that he's simply a make-believe mythical being that is there to try and bribe people into being good, not for goodness sake, but for goods. Tell them that it's just like Jesus, a lie and a fairy tale.
 
thaiboxerken said:
Tell them the truth about Santa, that he's simply a make-believe mythical being that is there to try and bribe people into being good, not for goodness sake, but for goods. Tell them that it's just like Jesus, a lie and a fairy tale.
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You are missing the point here -- it's not about truth -- it's about spanking single moms who have naughty children. :rolleyes:
 
thaiboxerken said:
Tell them the truth about Santa, that he's simply a make-believe mythical being that is there to try and bribe people into being good, not for goodness sake, but for goods. Tell them that it's just like Jesus, a lie and a fairy tale.
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My sister tells her kids that Santa is a lie and a fairy tale, unlike Jesus who is real! You might think she is halfway to your position but I can assure you she isn't! :p
 
Tokenconservative said:
Wow, you must've been an exceptional 5-yr-old.

More likely, you are misremembering and worse, applying grown-up (I suppose) feelings and thinking to a situation you could not possibly have thought of that way at that age.
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I think you underestimate children and memory both. You can find plenty of five-year-olds who are very good at recognizing that someone is patronizing them, even in somewhat subtle ways, and react with annoyance.

But go on believing that at 5 your were glowring at your parents from under hooded eyes as you opened your GI Joe or Transformers, because they were so happily treating you like a fool.

If it makes you feel better, anyway.
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Makes me feel better about what? And this was far too long ago for Transformers.

Go on believing that five-year-olds don't have the capacity to understand lying and condescension, if it makes you feel better.
 
Senex said:
You are missing the point here -- it's not about truth -- it's about spanking single moms who have naughty children. :rolleyes:
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Well, I like the spanking single moms part! Maybe Santa ain't so bad afterall! :D
 
When my kids were 6-7, they asked if Santa was real. I explained that Santa was based on St Nicholas, that he lived a long time ago and gave gifts to people. I also told them that the Santas they see are actually his helpers and that Mom and Dad actually put the gifts from Santa under the tree. It seemed to go over well.

Ranb
 
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