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What are your thoughts on Santa?

He needs to lose some weight. Instead of cookies, I'm leaving a veggie tray out for Santa this year.
 
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I think that they are ready for the truth when they begin to question his existence. If they like believing in him and are young enough to accept such, then they can enjoy the myth to the fullest. Nature will tend to take its course in due time --- it's the continuance of the "lie" once they are old enough to reason it out that I feel does the harm.
 
Tony said:
He needs to lose some weight. Instead of cookies, I'm leaving a veggie tray out for Santa this year.
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And guess what he's going to leave for you --- ;)

(There's got to be a pony in all this somewhere!)
 
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Darth Rotor said:
This was an argument my wife and I had for some years, an argument that I finally abandoned.

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He pointed to the dump truck, and a PowerMan with a parachute.

We went and found boxes, wrapped them up, and put them in the pile for the school's toy drive.

He then hit me with one of those moments that you live for, out of the blue.

He said he had thirteen dollars saved up, and wanted to buy a brand new toy, to add to those, for the drive.

We drove to the toy store a few miles from our house, a KayBee Toys. He bought a nine dollar transformer that he took some care in picking out of the many at the toy store. I paid to have it gift wrapped right there. It too was in the bag he carried to school on Monday.

Moments like that are what tears of joy are for. No Santa required.

DR
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TragicMonkey said:
"Grampa, how will Aslan bring us presents? In his mouth? Will my Baby Alive have lion drool and fang marks all over her?"

"Mommy, will Spongebob be able to breathe in our living room? Is he going to leave the presents in the fish tank?"

"Daddy, if Bilbo still has the Ring and uses it to sneak presents into the house, how do we know he's not here, right now, listening to us talk about him? And is there a risk of Gollum or Ringwraiths tracking him? I mean, I want that bigwheel, but not if it's going to get us all slaughtered."

"Cinderella's bringing the presents this year? The woman whose only skill is fitting into a pair of shoes? Sheesh. Forget it. Get me a damn gift card, and we'll call off this ridiculous farce!"
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Ah, the JRef, contrasting the sublime with the deeply disturbing.

When Blue2 came, we were having enough issues without promulgating the myth of some guy in red. Last year, when the subject came up from school, we said Santa represents all the giving spirit, but there wasn't a real Santa. And not to tell her friends.
 
I was about six when the school janitor got dressed up as Santa and
distributed presents at school to us little brats. All us little kids knew
it was the janitor (the whisky breath was a dead give-away), and he
gave me a lousy girly present; a skipping rope. I used it to make a
lasso and tie my little brother up with. A bit later I saw "Santas grotto"
at a place called Aviemore which I recognised (even at the age of
seven or so) was naught but a cynical commercial enterprise. The
"Santa" myth didn't have much of a chance after that, I guess.

I think that most kids grow out of Santa pretty quickly on their own.
A little harmless fantasy is OK when you're little, I think. Dog knows
that life crushes most of that out of you quickly enough as it is.
 
I loved the Santa mythology when I was young. My dad waited until Christmas eve after my sister and i went to bed to set the tree up and said Santa did it. My grandfather made the rounds Christmas Eve visiting his four local children's families (we were last and he didn't arrive until about 4:00AM) and he rang a bell hohohoing as he scooted out in the yard to hide. We always just missed Santa -- but the tree was lighted with aesbestos angel hair (it was beautiful) and my grandfathered showed up soon after and we would open presents. It was magical.

I'm a skeptic but not a cynic. Thumbs up for Santa!
 
Lots of good stories. I guess I'll let it ride, after all, she's only 3 months. I tried explaining it all this morning and got barfed on, stunk out and screamed at. And that was my wife. Ha ha. When she's old enough, we'll gently explain it to her. Santa represents the spirit of Christmas, blah blah blah. Maybe by then it'll pc'd out of existense.
 
Santa is real. Evidence. I see him in all the large stores at this time of year.

Santa is one of those things that we know are not true but no decent person is allowed to say that. Try explaining that to your children.

Plus what everyone else has said in this thread.
 
My wife's daughters are 10 and 7, and for the 5 or 6 years before our wedding, the girls got the annual Christmas spiel of how I actually used to work for Santa.
"... but, one year, Michael fell off a roof, and, breaking his ankle, Santa had to take away his magic and let him go. So he returned to the mundane world where I found him and decided to keep him."
Strangely enough the girls don't ask me too many questions. They just figure that my former job explains my wonderous ability with gift wrap, and my unnaturally youthful good looks.
I figure their innocence and naivety are worth a few yarns... at least for another year or so.
Besides, I still believe in Santa-in-me. And I like to think that at this time each year we're all capable of whipping up some Christmas magic.
Peace, shalome, bon natale, joyous noel and merry christmas, Forumites.
 
My parents loved santa. They would arrange elaborate plots to throw us off for years. For three years in a row, when my older brother was really getting into the doubting mode, they arranged for us to be out of the house on the night of Christmas Eve, and when we got home, the house would be full of presents and decorations that Santa put there. Drove my bro mad. He knew the physics of santa weren't possible, and yet the evidence of santa was there. In the meantime, I didn't really care, and accepted the presents happily. I never put too much stock into santa, but I knew better than to talk about it. Presents is presents.

My girlfriend believed in Santa until she was a senior in highschool. By the time she was a sophomore in college, she was an atheist.
 
Darth Rotor said:
Nominated for a Pith award. :)

Reason enough to keep coming back, eh?

DR
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I blush....:blush:


I've gone beyond the Santa myth. I've spent the last month telling Blue2 that since she's no longer a little kid, we don't do Christmas anymore. We put up the tree last night, and I stayed up wrapping presents, which have appeared. She's been wavering on whether to believe me, this should prove I'm totally unreliable as a source for truth. Wait.....:p
 
m_huber said:
My parents loved santa. They would arrange elaborate plots to throw us off for years. For three years in a row, when my older brother was really getting into the doubting mode, they arranged for us to be out of the house on the night of Christmas Eve, and when we got home, the house would be full of presents and decorations that Santa put there. Drove my bro mad. He knew the physics of santa weren't possible, and yet the evidence of santa was there. In the meantime, I didn't really care, and accepted the presents happily. I never put too much stock into santa, but I knew better than to talk about it. Presents is presents.

My girlfriend believed in Santa until she was a senior in highschool. By the time she was a sophomore in college, she was an atheist.
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words.....fail.........me... Grontynophilian! (a made up word that doesn't fail me)
 
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The mixed messages we as a society send our kids just drive me insane.

We spend 364 days of the year (and one more in a leap year) telling our kids to not talk to strangers and to absolutely not take candy from strangers. Then for one day of the year, we encourage them to do so.

And the Christmas thing. For the most part, we tell them early on that there's a god, and that there's a Santa Claus. Both watch them, keep tabs on them, know when they are bad and will reward them for being good.

We end up spilling the beans that yeah, we lied, there is no Santa Claus. And we fully expect them to buy that there is a god.

Highly illogical.
 
If he enters US airspace tonight, he should be shot down as we would any illegal alien entering the country in a flying sleigh and if he survives, he should be imprisoned for trying to smuggle livestock over the border without the right permit for smuggling livestock: a Mexican driver's license.

Tokie
 
Tokenconservative said:
If he enters US airspace tonight, he should be shot down as we would any illegal alien entering the country in a flying sleigh and if he survives, he should be imprisoned for trying to smuggle livestock over the border without the right permit for smuggling livestock: a Mexican driver's license.

Tokie
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Nope. NORAD's in on it, to include the Canadians in NORAD. Santa's annual sleigh ride is an inside job. :p

(wait a minute, it's an outside job, but the presents go inside . . . dash it all, I need a Guinness to sort this out.)

DR
 
Santa as a tool for critical thinking

It is a good way for them to find out, that just because someone is in a position of authority, in this case a parent, it does not make what they say right.
 
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