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What about this crop circle?

Limbo said:
87% of all formations in England occurred above an aquifer, and this figure rose to nearly 93% for the area of Britain south of a line from the Bristol Channel to the Wash.
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What would be interesting as a comparison, would be to show the amount of 'aquifer's' in the UK that have NEVER had a crop circle made above them.

Limbo said:
They basically show that an average of 71% of all UK crop formations each year occur on chalk or its neighbouring greensand, and if we just look at the area south of a line from the Wash to the Bristol Channel (85-90% of all formations are south of this line) the figure increases to 79%.
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Do you also have a map showing where most of the crop fields are in the UK?
It may be interesting for you to learn that the chalky downs (gently rolling hills) of Southern England are ideal farming country for wheat and suchlike. That's why they dont get crop circles in Nevada, not because of aquafers or chalk bedrock, but because of lack of crop fields.

Limbo said:
Doesn't look like people are making them just any ol' place.
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Correct, you need a field and you need it to have crops growing in it.
 
911kongen said:
http://astrojourneys.com/images/et_cropcircle_450_opt.jpg

Anybody know if this is proven fake? When it is made, and where?

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Define "fake"
If you mean made by humans makes it fake, I have seem more elaborate designs made by humans. You can make ANYTHING in a crop field. You have those nicely even-spaced parallel tracks to use. The rest is simple 6th grade geometry.
 
Ok so there are two categories of circlemakers. Experienced and inexperienced. The experienced ones know where all the best spots are. Spots that year after year have crop circles. Spots that are used so much they sometimes leave behind ghostly echoes of circles? Spots that are so predictable that tours are given every year? So which groups control which spots?
 
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Limbo said:
Ok so there are two categories of circlemakers. Experienced and inexperienced.
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Seems a bit simplistic to me, but yes, in general.

Limbo said:
The experienced ones know where all the best spots are. Spots that year after year have crop circles. Spots that are used so much they have left behind ghostly echoes?
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Ghostly echoes?
Example?

Limbo said:
Spots that are so predictable that tours are given every year? So which groups control which spots?
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The majority of UK crop circles are made with 30 minutes drive of each other. It's easy to predict that around a 10 mile radius of Alton Barnes there will be enough for a coach party to see in mid summer.
No one 'controls' anything, do you not see the logical impossibility of being the leader of the anarchists?
 
JoeTheJuggler said:
And why have you never responded to my questions about snowboarding, Limbo?

Many of these guys have skills way beyond average humans. Most of them work for free in all sorts of weather. It's something done all over the world (which you equate with having the resources and organization to travel or network all over the world).

Why don't you think it requires paranormal activity? Or do you?
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Yes if only we had some system that would enable us to communicate world wide. Alas and alack.
 
Limbo said:
I'm not making an argument from ignorance. I'm making an argument based on observation. For instance I observe an alchemical crop circle, and I argue that if so then the circlemaker has alchemical knowledge. So if a team of circlemakers made it, then at least one of them must have some alchemical knowledge. Right?

Was such obscure knowledge "easily" available to find on the internet in 1991? Or would a less quick and superficial level of alchemical familiarity be required? Maybe a level of expertise?
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Before the Internet there were libraries.

"This pattern is one of the most important alchemical and Hermetic symbols. It is featured in Michespacher's 1654 book Cabala in Alchymia"
 
Stray Cat said:
What ever Freddy Silva interpreted INTO the crop circle wasn't necessarily what the people who made it had in mind.

As I'm sure that the people who made this one, didn't expect it to have so many connections to the McDonalds logo

[qimg]http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg117/ThePsychoClown/BigMac.jpg[/qimg]

In fact you can take most any design and 'decode' it to make what ever you want.

This is a diagram of a crop circle that was made in 2008 (the green lines are the tractor lines):

[qimg]http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg117/ThePsychoClown/TramlineGrid.jpg[/qimg]

[qimg]http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg117/ThePsychoClown/Cartwheelman.jpg[/qimg]

[qimg]http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg117/ThePsychoClown/Cartwheel.gif[/qimg]

Fun innit?
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Nominated.
 
Limbo said:
Well, things like this.

The Underground Connection

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87% of all formations in England occurred above an aquifer, and this figure rose to nearly 93% for the area of Britain south of a line from the Bristol Channel to the Wash.

[...]

They basically show that an average of 71% of all UK crop formations each year occur on chalk or its neighbouring greensand, and if we just look at the area south of a line from the Wash to the Bristol Channel (85-90% of all formations are south of this line) the figure increases to 79%.

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Doesn't look like people are making them just any ol' place.
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And 100% of them are in fields..with crops.
 
Stray Cat said:
Ghostly echoes?
Example?
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http://www.bltresearch.com/images/otherfacts/insertl.jpg


The majority of UK crop circles are made with 30 minutes drive of each other. It's easy to predict that around a 10 mile radius of Alton Barnes there will be enough for a coach party to see in mid summer.
No one 'controls' anything, do you not see the logical impossibility of being the leader of the anarchists?
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I don't think there is a leader, but for circlemakers to do and know everything that the circles say they do and know it seems to me that they have to be more connected than meets the eye. I think that connection is synchronicity. Synchronicity is one of many psychic phenomenon that can manifest before, during, and after a crop circle is made. The ancients might have called it a muse.

“Surprisingly there is still a LOT of mystery — strange lights in the fields at night, telepathy in the creation of the designs, circle visitors affected profoundly both mentally and physically, and much more. Just because humans are flattening the crop, doesn’t mean that there’s no magic involved. In fact, in a way this just as wonderful — I mean, WE are the ETs! I feel sorry for the people who can’t get that.

“But deeper than that, I’m convinced that some esoteric Muse is working through many of the artists, guiding their work at night. Many great artists, poets and even generals credit the Muse for their inspiration. I think She is an intelligence that that has been looking out for humanity over the millennia, giving us gentle nudges to keep us on the path towards our destiny. That’s why the designs are so powerful that millions of people have had their lives uplifted by these ‘spiritual machines.’ They function similarly to Tibetan mandalas — which are also made by humans under the guidance of something higher. Whether on silk or a field of wheat, simply gazing at mandalas changes you." -Peter Sorensen

Stray Cat, this is exactly the sort of thing the sheep-goat effect would govern. You, a goat, make crop circles and no psi manifests, no paranormal effects, nada. So you think there's nothing going on. Peter, a sheep, makes crop circles and psi DOES manifest - mysterious lights, synchronicity, etc. And probably plant/soil anomalies.
 
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Stray Cat said:
We are all travelers in time... It's just that we are traveling at the same speed as it. ;)
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We are all traveling down the river to our inevitable end but some stop on the banks and make signs to enchant and amuse us on our journey.

For that we thank you.

It's a shame that some think so little of human intelligence that the first thing they think when they see something out of the usual is "aliens".
 
I don't think there is a leader, but for circlemakers to do and know everything that the circles say they do and know it seems to me that they have to be more connected than meets the eye. I think that connection is synchronicity. Synchronicity is one of many psychic phenomenon that can manifest before, during, and after a crop circle is made. The ancients might have called it a muse.
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The circles say they do and know something? The circles. The circles?

Why do you so quickly discount the possibility of someone seeing a crop circle and saying, "Wow, that's pretty cool! I wonder if I/we could do something bigger/better/more complicated/cooler than that?"

Why do you think there has to be some invisible, unhearable, unmeasurable something involved in this process? Why does some kind of psionic communication have to be going on?

Am I on ignore?
 
Limbo said:
...Peter Sorensen[/URL]

Stray Cat, this is exactly the sort of thing the sheep-goat effect would govern. You, a goat, make crop circles and no psi manifests, no paranormal effects, nada. So you think there's nothing going on. Peter, a sheep, makes crop circles and psi DOES manifest - mysterious lights, synchronicity, etc. And probably plant/soil anomalies.
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An artist waxing lyrical about his art.
Who woulda thunk?
 
Limbo said:
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I don't think there is a leader, but for circlemakers to do and know everything that the circles say they do and know it seems to me that they have to be more connected than meets the eye. I think that connection is synchronicity. Synchronicity is one of many psychic phenomenon that can manifest before, during, and after a crop circle is made. The ancients might have called it a muse.

“Surprisingly there is still a LOT of mystery — strange lights in the fields at night, telepathy in the creation of the designs, circle visitors affected profoundly both mentally and physically, and much more. Just because humans are flattening the crop, doesn’t mean that there’s no magic involved. In fact, in a way this just as wonderful — I mean, WE are the ETs! I feel sorry for the people who can’t get that.

“But deeper than that, I’m convinced that some esoteric Muse is working through many of the artists, guiding their work at night. Many great artists, poets and even generals credit the Muse for their inspiration. I think She is an intelligence that that has been looking out for humanity over the millennia, giving us gentle nudges to keep us on the path towards our destiny. That’s why the designs are so powerful that millions of people have had their lives uplifted by these ‘spiritual machines.’ They function similarly to Tibetan mandalas — which are also made by humans under the guidance of something higher. Whether on silk or a field of wheat, simply gazing at mandalas changes you." -Peter Sorensen

Stray Cat, this is exactly the sort of thing the sheep-goat effect would govern. You, a goat, make crop circles and no psi manifests, no paranormal effects. So you think there's nothing going on. Peter, a sheep, makes crop circles and psi DOES manifest - lights, synchronicity, etc. And probably plant/soil anomalies.
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You are so close. It's a muse as in amuse, that's the reason for crop circles.

Psychic sheep circle endlessly in synchronicity making circles.

I now have this vision of sheep doing synchronous swimming.
 
Limbo said:
http://www.bltresearch.com/images/otherfacts/insertl.jpg
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Ah, thought that was what you were talking about.
Can you not think of any other 'cause' for this?
Scars on the landscape are pretty common in the UK to archeologists, and the cause of them is usually down to stuff buried many feet under the ground and that has lay there for centuries.

SouthEast-of-Salisbury.jpg


It's not surprise that a well trodden circle from the previous year sometimes shows faintly in the following year's growth.


Limbo said:
I don't think there is a leader, but for circlemakers to do everything that the circles say they do it seems to me that they have to be more connected than meets the eye. I think that connection is synchronicity. Synchronicity is one of many psychic phenomenon that can manifest before, during, and after a crop circle is made. The ancients might have called it a muse.

“Surprisingly there is still a LOT of mystery — strange lights in the fields at night, telepathy in the creation of the designs, circle visitors affected profoundly both mentally and physically, and much more. Just because humans are flattening the crop, doesn’t mean that there’s no magic involved. In fact, in a way this just as wonderful — I mean, WE are the ETs! I feel sorry for the people who can’t get that.

“But deeper than that, I’m convinced that some esoteric Muse is working through many of the artists, guiding their work at night. Many great artists, poets and even generals credit the Muse for their inspiration. I think She is an intelligence that that has been looking out for humanity over the millennia, giving us gentle nudges to keep us on the path towards our destiny. That’s why the designs are so powerful that millions of people have had their lives uplifted by these ‘spiritual machines.’ They function similarly to Tibetan mandalas — which are also made by humans under the guidance of something higher. Whether on silk or a field of wheat, simply gazing at mandalas changes you." -Peter Sorensen

Stray Cat, this is exactly the sort of thing the sheep-goat effect would govern. You, a goat, make crop circles and no psi manifests, no paranormal effects. So you think there's nothing going on. Peter, a sheep, makes crop circles and psi DOES manifest - lights, synchronicity, etc. And probably plant/soil anomalies.
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If the mystery of where artists get their inspiration from is the only sign of anything paranormal happening, then we should expand that to all other artistic pursuits.

And besides, the main difference between me and Peter is that he makes money from the circles and has a bit of a vested interest in keeping some sort of mystery alive because it's the mystery that attracts the vast majority of the audience.
 
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