Webpage "Patriots Question 9/11" Addressed

[T.A.M.]

Norseman, thanks for that info, and to Gravy of course.

If Cruz was burned, it wasnt on her face or hair, as neither are burned in the video interview with Jennings.

TAM

 

[T.A.M.]

bump....

Ref, how is this going?

I am going to try and add some more to this over the next few day, so letting me know what you have done would help minimize overlap.

TAM

 

[T.A.M.]

Helen L. Goggin, EdD
Professor Emerita of Religious Education, Knox College, University of Toronto.

She has given talks for...

"The Center for Process Studies"

Which is described here

http://www.ctr4process.org/about/general.shtml

as...

was founded in 1973 by John B. Cobb, Jr. and David Ray Griffin to encourage exploration of the relevance of process thought to many fields of reflection and action. As a faculty center of the Claremont School of Theology in association with the School of Religion at the Claremont Graduate University, CPS seeks to promote a new way of thinking based on the work of philosophers Alfred North Whitehead (1861-1947) and Charles Hartshorne (1897-2000) through seminars, conferences, publications, and an extensive library.

As you can see, the center is founded by Griffin and Cobb, we know well who Griffin is, and Cobb is a close colleague.

The only RELATED info found on her, apart from her "amazon.com" reviews of Griffin's books (which is where PQ911 gets its entire blurb on her from), is a listing in the above site as a speaker...

http://www.ctr4process.org/news-events/CPSPastSeminars.shtml

Her seminar was in 1997

She is from Ontario Canada. her own writings are not related to 9/11 in any way.

TAM

 

[dudalb]

Wow, there seems to be a lot more Theologians then Engineers and Architects in that group.
Of course, if you are a Theologian you deal in a purely abstract world in which you can make statements and make judgements which you are under no obligation to actualy prove with evidence.

 

[T.A.M.]

John McMurtry, PhD
Professor of Philosophy and University Professor Emeritus, University of Guelph. Fellow of the Royal Society of Canada.

He is listed as a "Contributer" to DRG's book "9/11 and American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out ", and the quote that PQ911 uses on their site (which may be his entire contribution to the book, or not), is...

"The documented details that expose 9/11 denial will not be repeated here, because this volume and others have already reported them. They are impressively massive in confirming – and are not balanced by any facts disconfirming – the long open pathway to the attacks and the blocking of all independent inquiry since then."

http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html

He is also a signatory on this...
http://iitc.911review.org/

And is a Full Member of "scholars"
http://twilightpines.com//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=37&Itemid=35

Here is a link to his listing at University of Guelph
http://www.uoguelph.ca/philosophy/page.cfm?id=330

Here is a 2002 article by him on "what Bush knew"
http://www.zmag.org/content/TerrorWar/mcmurty.cfm

And a rebuttal to it by Michael Albert
http://www.zmag.org/content/TerrorWar/albertmcmurty.cfm

There is a video of a talk he gave, titled "Why The Facts Of 9 -11 Are Suppressed"
http://johnmccarthy90066.tripod.com/id390.html

He seems full blown into it...

TAM

 

[T.A.M.]

Douglas Sturm, PhD
Professor Emeritus of Religion and Political Science, Bucknell University

PQ911 Have him as "endorsing" Griffin's Book, "The New Pearl Harbor", with the following quote,

"That 9/11 has become a defining moment in our history cannot be gainsaid. But its exact significance is an exceedingly contentious question notwithstanding the seeming clarity of prevailing accounts. David Ray Griffin deconstructs those accounts with a host of unresolved puzzles strongly suggestive of some sort of culpable complicity by US officials in the event. His book presents an incontrovertible argument of the need for a genuinely full and independent investigation of that infamous day. "

http://www.interlinkbooks.com/produ...=1326&osCsid=d14eda5b263a1fbb9f2785df48b28ef5

They also have him as a signatory for the "9/11 Truth Statement", he is #93...
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041026093059633

Here is his bio...
http://www.hamline.edu/law/jlr/sturm_bio.html

he is an endorser on this "Stem Cell Research" Petition...
http://www.pfaith.org/endorsers.htm

He is connected to Griffin through the "Center for Process Studies"
http://web2.uwindsor.ca/courses/cmllc/whitney/blw.process.html

Not a lot on him, apart from the above, doesn't seem vocal.

TAM

 

[T.A.M.]

Robert S. Ellwood, PhD
Distinguished Emeritus Professor of Religion, University of Southern California
Gracia Fay Ellwood PhD
Former Instructor, Evansville University and California State University at Long Beach

PQ911 have both listed together, and in all likelihood this is due to the fact that they use as their quote, a book review under Robert's name, but which is actually written by Gracia. The review is for, you guessed it, DRG - "
The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About the Bush Administration and 9/11"

Here is the quote they use...

" 'Life is short, and the list of conspiracy theories is long,' says this author. So, why does he ask us to spend time on yet another supposedly far-out tale? A good initial reason is that he is David Ray Griffin, known from his other works to be an extremely meticulous and disciplined scholar and researcher. Carefully scrutinizing the evidence of the attacks of 9-11, the official explanations, and the work of critics, he presents the reader with numerous and disturbing questions. ...

Griffin does not claim to have the final answers, only to have made a strong case that an independent, well-funded investigation is desperately needed. He makes his case a hundred times over."

Full Review here
http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member...9672-4038058?ie=UTF8&sort_by=MostRecentReview

and, on the same page, a review of DRG's "The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions And Distortions"

Where, if you read the full review, you will see this...

A word about the author may be helpful. I have been acquainted with David Ray Griffin for sixteen years; for most of that time, I cannot say we were friends. He was my professor and later, my thesis advisor at Claremont Graduate University/Claremont School of Theology. My dissertation involved evaluating claimed factual/historical material and considering various explanatory theories. From his exacting, sometimes exasperating critical comments on nearly every page, I know him to be a careful, emotionally disciplined and penetrating thinker with long experience in weighing evidence. While I do not agree with every position he takes, I have always found that his conclusions cannot be dismissed by anyone who claims to be responsible.

Not sure who the words belong to, as she has signed the review, but the review is under Robert's name.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member...9672-4038058?ie=UTF8&sort_by=MostRecentReview

Here is a list of Dr. Gracia Ellwood's Published works...
http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&search-type=ss&index=books&field-author=Gracia Fay Ellwood&page=1

Little else on these two, and besides there reviews of the books, they have said little publicly (that I can find) about 9/11.

TAM

 

[T.A.M.]

Richard A. Horsley, PhD
Distinguished Professor of Liberal Arts and Former Chair of the Department of the Study of Religion, University of Massachusetts, Boston

The entirety of what PQ911 have listed on this man, is a quoted book review/endorsement, which is as follows...

"Do American Christians want the United States to act like the New Rome, invading other countries to impose its imperial rule and its control of other peoples' resources? That is just what the U.S. is doing, increasingly so since 9/11, explains David Griffin. In this gripping summary of evidence for the truth behind 9/11 and the 9/11 Commission report, Griffin makes a compelling case that the imperial practices of the American government have become a destructive force in the world. And he clarifies the biblical and theological basis for Christians to challenge the resurgent American imperialism that often claims divine blessing on its destructive actions."

https://www.ppcbooks.com/Details.asp?BookID=0664231179

Not even close to LIHOP as far as I can tell from the review...

Not much else on him wrt 9/11 that I can find...another DRG friend/colleague it seems, lending his support, but not much else.

TAM

 

[T.A.M.]

Clark A. Kucheman, PhD
Arthur V. Stoughton Professor of Christian Ethics, Claremont McKenna College. Former Assistant Professor, Divinity School, University of Chicago. Former Lieutenant, U.S. Air Force.

PQ911 has him listed solely based on his...yup, his book review for DRG (The New Pearl Harbor).

Having been kept awake nights in the Bachelor Officer's Quarters at McGuire Air Force Base, NJ, by both Air Force and Navy jet fighters revving and taking off through the night in defense of New York City, I have wondered why, contrary to standard operating procedure, no McGuire jets were scrambled on 9/11. The standard operating procedure is to intercept aircraft that are off course or out of communication, but - even after the first tower was hit - this was not done. Having read Griffin's book, and even though he does not claim to have a conclusive answer to my question, I am beginning to understand. In fact, I am aware of and beginning to understand much much else as well. And I shudder.

It may be too hot for the popular media to handle, but everyone - especially Air Force and Navy Air Corps veterans - should read and think carefully about the evidence and arguments considered in this book.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member...9672-4038058?ie=UTF8&sort_by=MostRecentReview

Apparently he is also on the Stem Cell Reseach petition (California)...
http://www.pfaith.org/list.php

Once again, not a whole lot on him...seems this review is his only public comment on 9/11 that can be found, at least by investigoogling.

TAM

 

[T.A.M.]

James Goulding, PhD
Professor Emeritus of Religion and former Vice President for Academic Affairs at MacMurray College. Adjunct Member of Religious Studies Faculty at Edgewood College.

Dr. Goulding is on the PQ911 site because he is an endorser of " Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth" (Kevin Barrett's group).

http://www.mujca.com/endorsers.htm

He is a Theologian who now focuses on Islam...

...He is strongly committed to helping people have an intelligent view of Islam.

http://religst.edgewood.edu/FACULTY/Religious Studies Faculty.htm

Not a whole lot out there about him, not where 9/11 is concerned anyway.

TAM

 

[T.A.M.]

Marjorie Hewitt Suchocki, PhD
Professor Emerita of Theology and Co-director of the Center for Process Studies at the Claremont School of Theology.
Former professor of systematic theology
dean of Wesley Theological Seminary
Visiting professor at Vanderbilt University in 1996 and 1999, and at the Ruprecht Karl University of Heidelberg.

On PQ911 because she is a signatory of the "9/11 Truth Statement" (#94)
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041026093059633

This from her Wiki Entry...

She is considered along with John B. Cobb and David Ray Griffin as one of the leaders in the field of process theology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marjorie_Hewitt_Suchocki

She is another Theologian, who has lent her name to the 9/11 truth, but doesn't seem to have much to say about it.

TAM

 

[T.A.M.]

Rev. David P. Polk, PhD
Former Vice President of Christian Board of Publication and Editor-in-Chief of Chalice Press 1990 - 2003 (ret).
Former Harold Glen Brown Associate Professor of Pastoral Ministry, Brite Divinity School, Texas Christian University.
Taught at Lexington Theological Seminary and at Coe, Mt. Mercy, and Drury Colleges.
Former Senior Pastor, First Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), Cedar Rapids, Iowa.

On the PQ911 site due to his, you guessed it, review of a DRG book...

Book:Christian Faith and the Truth Behind 9/11: A Call to Reflection and Action
Review: http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member...9672-4038058?ie=UTF8&sort_by=MostRecentReview

From his view he seems solidly in DRG's camp, but at the end he honestly, but revealingly states...

Since I have signed my name to this review, a disclosure is in order. I have known the author personally for over 40 years and consider him a good friend. He has challenged my complacency and troubled my conscience.

A google search of him with "9/11" and "truth" reveals nothing but his link via DRG.

TAM

 

[ref]

Thanks, TAM. Great work.

This is an "ongoing project". I plan to continue writing this as well. I'm halfway through the next part. Looking for inspiration to continue once again

I don't have access to my files at work, but I'll let you know how much I have done soon.

 

[T.A.M.]

No sweat...I think the only way to tackle the list is in dribs and drabs anyway.

TAM

 

[T.A.M.]

Graeme MacQueen, PhD
Associate Professor of Religious Studies and founding Director
Centre for Peace Studies, McMaster University (ret).

We have heard of this guy recently, as someone has been toting his claim of "hundreds of firefighters and EMTs witness to explosives or secondary devices"

The claim is based on the following essay he wrote for...you guessed it, JONES.
(warning, PDF file)

http://www.journalof911studies.com/articles/Article_5_118Witnesses_WorldTradeCenter.pdf

The trouble is, that despite misrepresentation by truthers on this forum and elsewhere, the essay states in the title that the firefighters were witness to "Explosions".

Of course we all know lots of things go "boom" when an aircraft travelling at 500mph strikes a 110 storey building right...

Anyway, he also did an interview with American Buddhist,

http://americanbuddhist.net/node/3390

From the article, he has clearly drank the the 9/11 truth koolaid, so we can give them this one...MacQueen is firmly in the kook camp on this one.

Shame, as the guy seems like a good fellow,
http://www.skydragon.org/html/graeme.html
an Anti-War guy too
http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/polisci/faculty/coleman/peoplesresolutioniraq.pdf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u40wGRtbwM4

Here is a link to a vid clip from him on the witnesses
http://www.911blogger.com/node/9261

TAM


TAM

 

[T.A.M.]

David Sprintzen, PhD
Professor Emeritus of Philosophy and former Co-director -
Institute for Sustainable Development, C.W. Post College at Long Island University.
Founder and currently Secretary -
Long Island Progressive Coalition.

He made a statement to the PQ911 site, as follows...

"I believe there are many serious unanswered questions about 9/11 that call out for a complete, independent investigation, without pre-judging the results of such an investigation. The official 9/11 Commission report is not credible."

http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html

He is a Full Member of "Scholars for 9/11 Truth".
http://twilightpines.com//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=37&Itemid=35

He also vetted this article, for what it is worth...
http://baltimorechronicle.com/bush6months_mar02.shtml

He has also authored at least 3 books
http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/se...s&index=books-ca&field-author=David Sprintzen

Not much else out there on him, wrt 9/11.

Seems that he had it in for the BUSH regime right from the get go, though,
http://stommel.tamu.edu/~baum/ethel/2002_01_27_ethel-archive.html

TAM

 

[LashL]

Excellent work, T.A.M.

The incestuous nature of the "professors" section is becoming clearer and clearer, thanks to your fine efforts. The "friends and family plan" indeed.

 

[T.A.M.]

you are welcome. So far I am still only getting through the "Religion and Philosophy" section of the profs. This may, or MAY NOT, be where the "Friends and Family" of DRG ends...we will see.

TAM

 

[T.A.M.]

Kerry S. Walters, PhD
William Bittinger Professor of Philosophy and Chair of the Department of Philosophy, Gettysburg College.
Co-founder of the Center for Nonviolent Living
Director of PeaceWay: A Ministry of Christian Nonviolence.
Co-editor of "Episcopal Peace Witness" the national quarterly of the Episcopal Peace Fellowship.

He is listed on the PQ911 site because (I know this is getting a bit tiresome) of his review of a DRG book (The New Pearl Harbour)...

http://www.amazon.com/review/product/1566565529/ref=cm_cr_pr_link_1

I've just spent an entire night and part of a day rereading and rereading Professor Griffin's thoroughly researched, judiciously argued, and incredibly disturbing book. Griffin takes on the task of investigating the official account of the 9/11 attacks, asking questions that beg to be asked, ferreting out inconsistencies in White House, Pentagon, and State Department reports, analyzing possible scenarios, and asking what kinds of evidence would properly address unanswered questions.

Griffin invites the reader to examine two possible explanations to account for the inconsistencies: the "incompetence" theory and the "complicity" theory. The former rests on the assumption that stupid mistakes were made both before and after the attack. The latter rests on the assumption that false official accounts were made about advance notice of the attacks and/or that after-the-fact obstruction of investigations took place. Griffin's conclusion is that it's reasonable to suppose that complicity rather than incompetence is the more likely explanation, and he painstakingly makes his case by examining five major challenges to the official version of what happened.

On the second anniversary of 9/11, Donald Rumsfeld made the shocking public claim that the attacks were really blessings "in disguise" (from the book's forward by Richard Falk). Rumsfeld's point was that the US was motivated by the attacks to ramp up its military strength; this was the "blessing" he referred to. But if even part of Griffin's analysis is on the money, the "blessing," which has led to great subsequent loss of life and expenditures of monies in Afghanistan and Iraq, is built on a deception.

A frightening, but not implausible, possibility.

here is his bio
http://www.gettysburg.edu/academics/philosophy/employee_detail.dot?empId=02000163720013381

Here is a review he did on Bob Graham's "Intelligence Matters"
http://www.amazon.com/Intelligence-...bs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199108873&sr=8-1

I spent an entire night reading this one. It simply boggles the imagination. I can't think of another sitting senator who's ever written such a book. Graham, who has served on the Senate Intelligence Committee for 10 years and chaired it for 18 months, contends that there's a Saudi Arabian connection to 9/11 that the Bush whitehouse is deliberately concealing.

Just one of many examples: it seems that a retired Saudi professor in California was enlisted by the FBI as a paid informant to keep tabs on Saudis in his area. Two of the 9/11 hijackers boarded with him. But when the Senate Intelligence Committee subpoenaed the FBI for information relayed by the professor, the White House ordered the FBI to refuse to give the info on the grounds of 'national security.'

From beginning to end, the White House has blocked public information about the Saudi connection to terrorism. Graham documents this bizarre resistance, and speculates that the reasons for it are complex. At least two factors play heavily: the national alliance with Saudi Arabia since WWII, and the oil dependency upon which that relation is built; and the Bush dynasty's personal relationship with the Saudi ruling family.

A chilling account of official misinformation. If even half of what Senator Graham says is correct, the country we now live in is different from the country we lived in four years ago.

here is a list of "Action Groups" that the " Episcopal Peace Fellowship" lists.
http://www.epfnational.org/publish/cat_index_42.shtml

Seems to me, he is a peace activist, who has questions after reading DRG's book...not much of an endorsement of the "9/11 truth" if you ask me.

TAM

 

[Brainache]

Oh TAM you are too literal! See, when they hint at dissatisfaction with Bush it means: "INSIDE JOB!!!!" and when they suspect incompetence it means: "INSIDE JOB!!!!!!!" But when they say that it was done by a bunch of pissed off Muslims it means "INSIDE JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

But apart from that, well done. I'd call you a patriot for your efforts, but you are Canadian so that can only mean you are in on the whole thing, so, take off ya hooser!!!!!!