We Scored One For The Skeptics!

[TC329]

BTW, I am not against a new investigation.

Do it already.

Thank you!


Open, Transparent, & Televised.

No "group" testimonials behind closed doors. No letting people get away with stuffing evidence from the National Archives down their pants, shredding it, & then saying "I don't know what it was".

Let the families form a committee and form the questions so that when it is all over everyone involved is satisified.

 

[TC329]

Source?

Lee Hamilton, hear him say it yourself.

 

[HyJinX]

Thank you!


Open, Transparent, & Televised.

No "group" testimonials behind closed doors. No letting people get away with stuffing evidence from the National Archives down their pants, shredding it, & then saying "I don't know what it was".

Let the families form a committee and form the questions so that when it is all over everyone involved is satisified.

TC, What are the outstanding questions that you and the truth movement feel haven't been answered? I hear "there are just so many questions outstanding"...but I never get a clear picture as to what those questions are. Can you elaborate for me?

Thanks
HyJinX

 

[TC329]

It's really embarassing. The truthers can't get ANYTHING right.

Semantics....."predominantly" Saudi's.........

Then again we can break it down even further........

Like the ones who are still alive or why the passengers of UA93 all only mention 3 hijackers.......

 

[TC329]

WHY ISN'T OUR PUBLIC TELEVISION STATION AIRING MORE DOCUMENTARIES ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST HOAX, THE MOON LANDING HOAX, THE AIDS HOAX, THE RACIAL EQUALITY HOAX, THE CHEMTRAILS IN THE AIR, THE TERRORISM HOAX, AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS I HAVE AN OPINION ABOUT!!! I DEMAND AN END TO THIS CENSORSHIP!!! I DEMAND EQUAL TIME FOR MY OPPOSING VIEWS!!!

Rediculous.

The original poster begged for equal time to the "official story" to contradict Loose Change.

I simply asked whether or not Television and Radio has given the official story more than it's fair share of airtime already.

No one pulls a show because we ask for equal representation. The people of Ireland have seen plenty of docs on 9/11 which portray the official story I am sure. How many have aired over there that offer a differing view?

 

[CHF]

Why not support a new investigation and put an end to all of this???????

Who should conduct the new investigation?

Give me some names or STFU.

 

[TC329]

Sure.

That FDR data was taken off of an FDR found in airplane wreckage at the Pentagon.

We have looked at the data, it is consistent with the official story. Imprimus, I refer you to this excellent discussion by poster Anti-sophist.

Back to you.

How is it consistent?

It is a completely different flight path. It is way above all the lightposts it's alledged to have knocked over, it's on the North side of the Citgo station, it is 18 miles away 1 second before impact, and so on.

You have addressed all of these issues? I seriously doubt it.

I had a rightwing radio host (Jim Quinn, XM165, WPGB 104.7 Pittsburgh) look over the data and he told me it was faked and my sources were full of ***** because that plane at best was going to "overshoot" it's target. Jim Quinn has a couple thousand hours logged as a pilot.

Then I showed him the FOIA cover sheet from the NTSB and provided links for him to verify it and his next reply was :

Produce a passenger.

As if I know what happened to the people on that plane. That's one of the reasons I want a new investigation!!!!

 

[Pardalis]

As if I know what happened to the people on that plane. That's one of the reasons I want a new investigation!!!!

They Died!

 

[jon]

Rediculous.

The original poster begged for equal time to the "official story" to contradict Loose Change.

I simply asked whether or not Television and Radio has given the official story more than it's fair share of airtime already.

No one pulls a show because we ask for equal representation. The people of Ireland have seen plenty of docs on 9/11 which portray the official story I am sure. How many have aired over there that offer a differing view?

The irony is that the same argument's used by right wing christian fundamentalists, who argue that Intelligent Design should be given as much time as Darwinism. Do you agree with them, TC; and what about discussing theories of the 'holohoax' in history documentaries? Or how about David Icke's account of the important role of reptilian aliens in human history - is it unfair that that's not given a balanced airing as an account to the 'official' story where, for example, the British royal family are believed to be human

You need to show why Loose Change is any more worthy of being given time than these other types of BS - unless you believe that anyone, saying anything, however offensive or ridiculous, has a 'right' to be taken seriously by the 'mainstream' media.

 

[Arus808]

Who should conduct the new investigation?

Give me some names or STFU.

I love how he states that the investigation should be "open" and not behind closed doors.

Um hello...all investigations are never open and are always behind closed doors. Do you know why? Because if an investigation is "open" , then evidence gets compromised and data gets lost.

 

[TC329]

So all that wreckage was planted with the press breathing down the people's backs? And no one of the press thought "Well, those people are just dragging out wreckage. If I get it on tape, I'll be the next Edward R. Murrow."?

If LC got something right, that isn't it.

Those people weren't dragging out wreckage. AA77 did not hit the Pentagon. The fdr data has confirmed that.

That doesn't mean a hole just exploded out of nowhere through 3 rings of the newly reinforced Pentagon. Something obviously caused that damage. Perhaps if the NTSB were allowed to do a full reconstruct like they're supposed to have done we'd have a more definitive answer as to what did hit it.

There is nothing clearly identifiable as AA77 in any evidence from the Pentagon. Which makes sense because AA77 didn't hit it.

And when Merc's documentary comes out next month, NONE, I repeat, NONE OF YOU ARE GOING TO KNOW WHAT TO SAY.

 

[DarkMagician]

Semantics....."predominantly" Saudi's.........

Then again we can break it down even further........

Like the ones who are still alive

Got a source that says they're living, or does your source point out name confusion and you hope to imply that some of them still live?

or why the passengers of UA93 all only mention 3 hijackers.......

Aside from a few "stick-of-gum" planes, you won't be able to see the entire plane from a few seats.

 

[apathoid]

Semantics....."predominantly" Saudi's.........

Then again we can break it down even further........

Like the ones who are still alive or why the passengers of UA93 all only mention 3 hijackers.......

The alive hijackers were debunked over 3 years ago. Please get some new material...

You people aren't really bright at all.

You misused another apostrophe, Einstein. The Saudis don't own anything.
/LL

 

[TC329]

They Died!

I agree.

But if AA77 didn't hit the Pentagon (as confirmed through it's fdr data) then how?

 

[Pardalis]

I agree.

But if AA77 didn't hit the Pentagon (as confirmed through it's fdr data) then how?

Ridiculous (notice the spelling).

Flight 77 hit the Pentagon, killing everyone on board.

 

[Firestone]

Like the ones who are still alive or why the passengers of UA93 all only mention 3 hijackers.......

So, the mean NWO-plotters first fabricated faked phone calls where only 3 hijackers are mentionned, and then fabricate a fake story with 4 hijackers in it.

And then you wonder that this nonsense doesn't get equal time with serious research?

 

[johnny karate]

I'm not sure why Terror Cell and the other CTers are coming to the JREF Forum to complain.

They should be directing their complaints to RTE. Contact them and see what they tell you.

 

[Arus808]

The fdr data has confirmed that.

false. the FDR confirms that AA77 hit the pentagon.

That doesn't mean a hole just exploded out of nowhere through 3 rings of the newly reinforced Pentagon.

that's what happens when a 100 ton plane barrels into the side of a wall at 500 mph.

Something obviously caused that damage.

AA 77 caused that damage.

Perhaps if the NTSB were allowed to do a full reconstruct like they're supposed to have done we'd have a more definitive answer as to what did hit it.

how can you do a full reconstruction when the plane was nearly obliterated? YOU do know that the NTSB does not reconstruct every plane on every accident they investigate. Sometimes, those accidents leave no plane parts left to reconstruct.

There is nothing clearly identifiable as AA77 in any evidence from the Pentagon. Which makes sense because AA77 didn't hit it.

Oh really? despite the the many parts of the fuselage? the big pieces of the plane that had American Airlines logos on them? despite the parts found were serial stamped with American Airlines logos? despite the chairs that they did find that had the America Airlines material on them?

Wow, you are patently obtuse and blind.

 

[DarkMagician]

Those people weren't dragging out wreckage. AA77 did not hit the Pentagon. The fdr data has confirmed that.

No it has not. Yours and many other misinterpretations of the fdr data "confirms" it.

[snip]

There is nothing clearly identifiable as AA77 in any evidence from the Pentagon. [snip]

That statement says more about your inability to identify AA77 parts than any conspiracy.

 

[apathoid]

And when Merc's documentary comes out next month, NONE, I repeat, NONE OF YOU ARE GOING TO KNOW WHAT TO SAY.

You must've missed this 51 page(and counting) thread in which we had plenty to say about the upcoming "documentary".