Was 9-11 an inside job or not?

[MetalliSociety]

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Yes.


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Disagree with your stance Max, but kudos on doing what the OP requested instead of avoiding it.

 

[twinstead]

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Yes.


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[backhanded complement]
Of all the truthers, at least you attempt to explain WHY you believe the way you do.

IMO your reasons fail to stand up to scrutiny by those with expertise in the relevant fields, but you stand head and shoulders above the garden-variety truther.
[/backhanded complement]

 

[1337m4n]

This is why Max Photon is the coolest Truther out there.

 

[CptColumbo]

This is why Max Photon is the coolest Truther out there.

Evidence?

 

[Thunder]

According to Truthers, if you believe hard enough that it was an inside job, then it must have been.

 

[Good Lt]

There you go, Max.

Show the others how it's done.

No vacillating, no three-card Monte.

Either you believe the woo or you don't.

You are to be commended for you honesty, although I think your belief in said woo is quite insane.

 

[Diagoras]

According to Truthers, if you believe hard enough that it was an inside job, then it must have been.

Well, if you believe that your beliefs can change reality hard enough, your beliefs really will change reality. Your inability to change reality with your beliefs is just because you believe you can't change reality with your beliefs. Haven't you heard of The Secret?

 

[Good Lt]

No I can't answer yes or no until a real investigation that's not an inside job is conducted.

The investigation was not an "inside job."

Now was 9-11 an inside job or not?

 

[Bell]

The investigation was not an "inside job."

Now was 9-11 an inside job or not?

But then, IF the investigation was an inside job, what would that say about the attacks? Maybe someone can quote LC's answer* since I have him on ignore.

*Here's hoping.

 

[Good Lt]

But then, IF the investigation was an inside job, what would that say about the attacks?

LC still hasn't decided if he believes 9-11 was an inside job yet. We must go slow with them. They can't handle more than one direct question at a time.

 

[OldTigerCub]

I'm sorry I hesitated earlier...but I doubt that any troother can answer without an overly complicated follow-up question. There is no such thing as simplicity when it comes to solving a crime or an act of war that has aready been solved.

 

[qarnos]

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20030512/editors

During World War II Harry Truman referred to some forms of war profiteering as "treason." When he heard rumors of such profiteering, Truman got into his Dodge and, during a Congressional recess, drove 30,000 miles paying unannounced visits to corporate offices and worksites. The Senate committee he chaired launched aggressive investigations into shady wartime business practices and found "waste, inefficiency, mismanagement and profiteering," according to Truman, who argued that such behavior was unpatriotic. Urged on by Truman and others in Congress, President Roosevelt supported broad increases in the corporate income tax, raised the excess-profits tax to 90 percent and charged the Office of War Mobilization with the task of eliminating illegal profits. Truman, who became a national hero for his fight against the profiteers, was tapped to be FDR's running mate in 1944.

Do you understand the difference between profiting and profiteering?

 

[1337m4n]

Well, if you believe that your beliefs can change reality hard enough, your beliefs really will change reality. Your inability to change reality with your beliefs is just because you believe you can't change reality with your beliefs. Haven't you heard of The Secret?

It's a lot like The Force. One must BELIEVE he can move objects with his mind in order to do so. Hence:

LUKE: I don't believe it! (after Yoda lifts an X-Wing with his mind)

YODA: That...is why you fail.

 

[LastChild]

Do you understand the difference between profiting and profiteering?

So now they're not profiteers? If you look up war profiteering on wiki Halliburton is one of the first mentioned.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_profiteering

In the United States

Criticism of companies such as Halliburton in the context of the Iraq war draw heavily on the stereotype of the businessman profiteer. Slogans relating to 'blood for oil' have a similar implication.

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=14735

US: The People vs. the Profiteers

by David Rose, Vanity Fair
October 4th, 2007

Apart from its connections in Washington, there is something else that protects KBR: the perception, widespread throughout the military, that it has provided generally good-quality services in war-zone conditions. As Grayson puts it, " Halliburton 's philosophy is not to deliver crap. Halliburton 's philosophy is to deliver extraordinarily overpriced but adequate services in support of the government."

That these have cost billions of dollars more than they should have is an inconvenient detail, and already the Pentagon is moving on. Officials now accept that the monopoly granted by logcap 3 had its drawbacks, and at the end of June the army announced that the contract will soon be terminated and replaced with a new one, logcap 4. Under this, the largesse will be split among three corporations: DynCorp, Fluor, and KBR. logcap 4 is another cost-plus, indefinite-delivery, indefinite-quantity contract, but at least this time KBR's income, as well as DynCorp's and Fluor's, will be capped. Over the next 10 years, KBR will have to satisfy itself with charging American taxpayers $50 billion for its services under logcap 4.

These improvements may turn out to be little more than cosmetic. According to Bowen, what's needed is full disclosure of all subcontracting arrangements and a substantial increase in the number of officials who spend their time designing and policing contracts.

 

[Good Lt]

Criticism of companies such as Halliburton in the context of the Iraq war draw heavily on the stereotype of the businessman profiteer. Slogans relating to 'blood for oil' have a similar implication.

Right. People like you stereotype them without knowing the definition of profiteering.

You just debunked yourself.

KBR: the perception, widespread throughout the military, that it has provided generally good-quality services in war-zone conditions.

But of course, they're not allowed to support the military in any way in LC land. Never.

NOW- was 9-11 and inside job? Yes or no, LC?

Why can't you answer this?

 

[LastChild]

Right. People like you stereotype them without knowing the definition of profiteering.

Stereotype? Oh bother stop picking on the poor war profiteers.

You just debunked yourself.

That's what you call debunking? Well doesn't that explain a lot?

But of course, they're not allowed to support the military in any way in LC land. Never.

Support the military? What? They took no bid contracts out of the goodness of their heart and patriotism? Really? Then why are they moving their corporate HQ to the Dubai?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/11/AR2007031100643.html

Halliburton Will Move HQ to Dubai
By JIM KRANE
The Associated Press
Sunday, March 11, 2007
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates -- Oil services giant Halliburton Co. will soon shift its corporate headquarters from Houston to the Mideast financial powerhouse of Dubai, chief executive Dave Lesar announced Sunday.

NOW- was 9-11 and inside job? Yes or no, LC?

Why can't you answer this?

I don't need to provide you with a CT to try and debunk just because it's your hobby and I don't buy into the official version.

Now do you have any questions or arguments that aren't short sited and misinformed?

Yes or no?

 

[Good Lt]

Haliburton and KRB are not the same company anymore, dunce. Had you bothered to read the CNN article you cited you'd know that.

So now the argument has shifted to where Halliburton moved its corporate HQ? Well that's proof

INSiDe JorB/WAR ProFiTeeRING!!3!!@#

I don't need to provide you with a CT to try and debunk just because it's your hobby and I don't buy into the official version.

So, your answer is yes. Thanks. We don't need to hear anything else from you, to be honest.

Now do you have any questions or arguments that aren't short sited and misinformed?

Short sighted arguments? I'm just asking questions.

This forum is about YOUR arguments (and I use the term loosely) and their lack of basis, bud.

Keep in mind the Membership Agreement and do not use personal attacks or insults to argue your point.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Lisa Simpson

 

[WildCat]

Then why are they moving their corporate HQ to the Dubai?

OMFG!1!! An oil services company moved their headquarters to a place where there is lots of oil!!!!! Conspiracy inside job!!!!!!!!1111111!!

 

[Crungy]

OMFG!1!! An oil services company moved their headquarters to a place where there is lots of oil!!!!! Conspiracy inside job!!!!!!!!1111111!!

Last night I was at a going away party for a friend who just accepted a human resources position with Haliburton and is shipping out to Dubai for training in two weeks, then he will be in the Green Zone for a year.

Last week I was up on the North Slope in Alaska working for an oil company is a client of mine (yes, I'm a shill). Haliburton also relocated their base there from one parcel to a nearby one.

 

[Good Lt]

Labeling is a base form of prejudice. You're trying to diminish the value of honest inquiry by coming up with a silly name and then applying it to anyone who doesn't agree with you.

When the revolution comes, you're going to prison, traitor.

InSIDe JoBr!!3