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Val McClatchey's camera identified, contained editing software

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R.Mackey said:
1) In this post, poster Arkan_Wolfshade shows the geometry of the crash. The impact crater, the extent of foliage burned, and the debris field are all consistent with Val's photograph.

2) The photograph is also consistent with the aircraft's true direction of travel and the prevailing wind direction, but not consistent with the direction of travel made up by conspiracists, as shown in this post.

3) Their claim that the aircraft was travelling due west is a result of quote-mining. The FDR and radar data all support the official direction of travel.

4) In this post I summarized two calculations (done by people who can add numbers properly) that independently showed the smoke plume size was completely credible.

5) We know that Flight 93 crashed there. Tons of debris were found. Many people witnessed the crash.

6) The cloud of smoke created and seen is right where, when, and how Val McClatchey's photograph says.
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1) :boggled:

2) :boggled:

3) Where did I say due west?

4) How many gallons was that based on?

5) :rolleyes:

6) Except about 250 yrds off, or 2 1/2 football field lengths and that's if the plume was 7 football fields wide. :jaw-dropp
 
Killtown, are you accusing Valeria McClatchey, of Indian Lake, Pennsylvania, to have personnally doctored her picture intitled "End of Serenity"?
 
Killtown said:
As I ALREADY SAID, just wanted to point out that she did have access to photo-altering software unlike the Post-Gazette said.
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and this is "sinister" how?
my sony came with a sony image program. All it can do is crop, add borders to make stupid frames to a photo, remove red eye, resize and do some "color" adjustments (like turning a photo black and white or sepia tone) or imporve color balance, white balance, and contrast.
It definitely cannot do what the you are proposing or making it seem to do.
 
Killtown said:
1) :boggled:

2) :boggled:

3) Where did I say due west?

4) How many gallons was that based on?

5) :rolleyes:

6) Except about 250 yrds off, or 2 1/2 football field lengths and that's if the plume was 7 football fields wide. :jaw-dropp
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Since you can't add, you've reverted to the time-honored scientific tradition of "argument by smiley?"

We've done the work, Killtown. You saying "it ain't so" is insufficient.

I also note, humorously, that the "football field" remains the standard unit of length in your own personal system. Further evidence, as if any was needed, that you have no scientific training whatsoever.

Your argument remains refuted. You are, therefore, in breach of your own agreement that you would apologize to Val if you couldn't prove your point. Yet here you are, still libeling her. I therefore state, with the weight of evidence behind me, that you are a liar and a charlatan of the absolute worst kind.
 
LashL said:
That's a good idea. Be sure to keep the IP records as well so that he cannot later claim that someone else was impersonating him.
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I don't think that would be a concern. KillTown's arrogence is unique, even for a conspiracy nut. It would take a special kind of sociopath to replicate it.
 
Killtown said:
Guess you missed the part where they took her memory card and possibly hard drive back with them.
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if thats your point why bring up an autograph?

and BTW, "no 757 crashed there" is not an explanation of what happened in shanksville, an explanation would involve what DID happen, not what didnt
 
Killtown said:
Photo may be fake, she had editing software, hmmm.
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the software she had was not capable of performing the photomanipulation you attribute to it

liek saying there was a guy on the grassy knoll with a pellet gun, HE must have shot kennedy


my title just states facts.
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seriously, cut the crap, everyone knows what you are implying

Killtown said:
Photo may be fake, she had editing software, hmmm.
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why bring this up unless you want to make some point with it...hmmm
 
defaultdotxbe said:
1) if thats your point why bring up an autograph?

2) and BTW, "no 757 crashed there" is not an explanation of what happened in shanksville, an explanation would involve what DID happen, not what didnt
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1) further proof they were there.

2) Only in JREF world.
 
Killtown said:
Photo may be fake, she had editing software, hmmm.
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Maybe the photo shows a missile hit? You know, like the one that hit WTC1?

Sheep aka Bell said:
Hey Killtown! I can answer your question nr. 3!

Yes, it DOES look like a Boeing 757 crashed there!

Look at this:

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Killtown said:
I don't believe a 767 crashed in the WTC, so can't compare it. I do think a missile crashed there, so maybe it IS a good comparison!

Plus, you really think Val's plume was 7 football field length wide???
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:bwall

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2462
 
In one post you accuse Mrs. McClatchey of performing the edit, in the next (and in some cases the same) post you say it was the FBI, then you accuse the husband. One common trait of liars is inconsistancy.
 
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