VA Tech School Shooting, possible 32 dead, developing...

skeptigirl said:
That's a tough call. Everybody pouring out of the rooms could have put them in the line of fire. No way to know unless you were there.
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I would think that keeping everyone where they were would allow the authorities to isolatethe perp. locked classrooms restricts his access to victims, while hordes of folks out on the lawn would create what the military calls a "Target-rich environment", and no way to corner the guy

ETA--- no matter what they do or did, large groups of people will find fault with it, and call for the heads of those making the decision.
"Damned if you do, damned if you don't."
 
I think it's a problem that occurs because we live in such safe, controlled environments. I don't mean "controlled" in the Conspiracy Theorist way, I mean "controlled" as in society itself functions in a way that deters randomness of that nature.

The problem with this is, despite all of our "civilisation" these sort of events do happen. If someone wants to go on a rampage and slaughter a whole bunch of people, there's really no effective response. They're going to kill a lot of people. It's really unavoidable (unless you prevent the attack before it happens).

Sure, you could have "mass shooting" drills in schools and work places, but what's the point? how often do they happen? The USSS did a comprehensive study of shootings after Columbine and concluded there was absolutely no common factor amongst shooters and their methodology. Anyone could be a shooter, and the shooting could unfold in any way.

You simply cannot plan for that sort of instance.

It's quite simply a fact of life that Americans have to live with, that as long as they continue to allow free access to firearms, and as long as the youth are conditioned to kill, and as long as the youth are desensitised to violence, and as long as there is a culture of violence and social segregation in American schools, school shootings will continue to occur.

-Gumboot
 
I simply can't believe the Alex Jones's of the world who turn tragedies like this into fodder for their cause. This isn't some Black Op. It's not a Hollywood script. It's a tragedy that destroys lives and finds it's way into the lives of thousands more.

My girlfriend called me about an hour ago. She was in tears. It appears that a close friend of her family was one of the victims of this tragedy. Although I never met him, I met his sister and their family last year. They are nice people. I can not begin to imagine the horror of the past 24 hours that they experienced. According to my girlfriend, the family just recently found out. After trying to to contact him, calling hospitals, and finally flying to Virginia when they couldn't find him.

Real lives. Real people. Real tragedy. All cheapened by the CTs of the world.
 
apathoid said:
Conspiracism is a sickness; a disease of the mind that destroys the soul.
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This massacre illustrates your eloquent characterization in stark, grotesque relief.

It's as though they treat every human tragedy as a potential capstone event that will vindicate them and their beliefs. They are constantly waiting for the Big One that will trigger the cascade of maneuvers giving the puppet masters total control. The sheeple will then turn to the CTs to lead them in the fight to regain their freedom. It's never about the lives lost. It's about: "This is It, boys! Soon it will be Our Time!"
 
I wonder if this guy was a truther. He was an english student but he went to the engineering building and killed a Civil Engineering professor and an Aeronautical engineering professor. Odd.
 
Earl The Tall said:
I agree and disagree with you. I agree it seems like Fox is pushing for that idea, but I disagee that they seem to have a point. The school went under the impression that the first shooting was isolated and classes could resume, but they honeslty should have buffed the sercurity a bit around the campus. Would have it stopped the shooter? Maybe not but I think the response would have been a bit faster.
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At the risk of coming off as being preachy and self-righteous, it struck me as an indication of what American society has become that murders are considered to be such a normal thing that it didn't occur to the authorities that emergency measures should be taken just because a couple of people were killed.
 
Why do you need to link this to that retarded movement?

Could it be that he just snapped and hurt as many people as were within reach? That of the 50 some odd people he shot, their occupation or areaof study was inconsequential?
 
TraitorBasher said:
I wonder if this guy was a truther. He was an english student but he went to the engineering building and killed a Civil Engineering professor and an Aeronautical engineering professor. Odd.
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Good grief.

One minute you're whining that the media will want to frame him as a 'truther', and now you're doing it yourself.

Yes TB, it's very ODD.

A deranged young man went on the rampage and killed 32 people and then himself.

Give it up.
 
TraitorBasher said:
I wonder if this guy was a truther. He was an english student but he went to the engineering building and killed a Civil Engineering professor and an Aeronautical engineering professor. Odd.
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You would do well to learn some more about Type I and Type II errors in pattern recognition and statistics.
 
TraitorBasher said:
I wonder if this guy was a truther. He was an english student but he went to the engineering building and killed a Civil Engineering professor and an Aeronautical engineering professor. Odd.
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... and killed more than 2 dozen students
... and wounded dozens more

grow up TraitorBasher. This was a tragedy that has nothing to do with your conspiracy theories.
 
uk_dave said:
Good grief.

One minute you're whining that the media will want to frame him as a 'truther', and now you're doing it yourself.

Yes TB, it's very ODD.

A deranged young man went on the rampage and killed 32 people and then himself.

Give it up.
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This thread has been started in the conspiracy forum. I will say whatever I like. Put me on ignore if you don't like it. I am breaking no rules.
 
I do feel a bit sorry for the President in this situation. He was damn if you do damned if you don't. If he had locked down the whole campus and nothing happened he would be critized for a knee-jerk reaction. But, in this case when he didn't and the shootings contuined he is looked at as if he didn't know how to run the school or had the saftey of the students in mind. What the sayin Hindsight is 20/20.

Also honestly the police and medics don't get enough thanks in my mind at just doing their job, so I would thank them contantly too if I was and interviewer.

And to Bush who said we have a just an loving God, that was absurd to me, it was well.......just Bush take that for what you will.
 
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If Cho Seung-hui was a twoofer, he would have yelled "inside job" or something alike before he began to shoot.

Come on... Not everything revolves around 9/11, traitorbasher. :rolleyes:
 
Prison Planet said:
The difference? 40 years ago cops were not cowards, they knew their job was to protect the public and they didn't hide behind trees while wearing bullet proof body armor and toting sub-machine guns, cowering in fear at the prospect of facing up to a punk with a pea-shooter.
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A pea-shooter...that Still KILLED 32 Innocent people.
A gun is a gun is a gun.

Who knows if some of these cops didn't shield themselves behind trees we could have had more dead.


This thread started before there were conspiracy theorists surrounding the event, but on the same day they emerged.

Prison Planet said:
The case of the UT Tower shooting when compared to the Virginia massacre illustrates perfectly how American men have been turned into weak yellow bellies who beg and plead for the equally spineless police to protect them in a crisis.
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It's the victims OWN fault I see for being shot.
 
eddyk said:
A pea-shooter...that Still KILLED 32 Innocent people.
A gun is a gun is a gun.

Who knows if some of these cops didn't shield themselves behind trees we could have had more dead.


This thread started before there were conspiracy theorists surrounding the event, but on the same day they emerged.



It's the victims OWN fault I see for being shot.
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RANT! *HATE*
 
from eddyk's post above:

Big and bold Alex Jones. I can't believe this loser called police officers cowards, from the comfort of his radio studio. I suppose he would also have single-handedly thwarted all the terrorists on 9/11 if he had been on one of the flights.

It is too easy to talk so bravely outside of the situation those kids were in yesterday. Alex Jones is the illustrative example of that.

If karma actually exists, perhaps one day Alex Jones will be robbed at gunpoint by three men. Then he will have his chance to show us how brave he is.
 
Mince said:
Big and bold Alex Jones. I can't believe this loser called police officers cowards, from the comfort of his radio studio. I suppose he would also have single-handedly thwarted all the terrorists on 9/11 if he had been on one of the flights.
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No doubt he would have been right beside Fetzer, beating them to death with his luggage.

-Gumboot
 
LCF now has 19 (nineteen) threads about this.

Obviously 'truthers' don't go in for alot of self analysis.
 
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