VA Tech School Shooting, possible 32 dead, developing...

[israelside]

I want to say, we are saddened and pray for the familes of the events today at VT, but it is interesting to hear prez bush say basically, we'll give u all assistance you need and bascially speeding up any sort of investigation with help of fbi etc....yet on 911, the families of the attack had to strongly press for a full independent investigation, yet we just got a whitewash.

 

[Architect]

Ach what the hell.

Right Trait and yon Israeli geezer, me ol' mates, you can assume that I know a wee bit about how buildings are put together, how they fall apart, and hence can kinda follow all that pesky technical stuff in the NIST report.

What bits do you think are pish, and why?

In detail, mind. Be sure not to leave anything out.

 

[pomeroo]

I want to say, we are saddened and pray for the familes of the events today at VT, but it is interesting to hear prez bush say basically, we'll give u all assistance you need and bascially speeding up any sort of investigation with help of fbi etc....yet on 911, the families of the attack had to strongly press for a full independent investigation, yet we just got a whitewash.

Your claim about a whitewash is a falsehood.

 

[pomeroo]

Jowenko is right that they don't resemble demolitions.

Now, you're being coy. Let me amplify Jowenko's position a bit. He has utter contempt for the idiocy about space lasers and invisible hypersonic planes. He understands perfectly well that jihadists hijacked planes and flew them into the twin towers. He agrees that the towers collapsed as a result of the impacts, the dislodging of the fireproofing, and the extensive fires. To summarize, he REJECTS the fantasist myth.

 

[TraitorBasher]

Now, you're being coy. Let me amplify Jowenko's position a bit. He has utter contempt for the idiocy about space lasers and invisible hypersonic planes.

So do I. Nice strawman.

He understands perfectly well that jihadists hijacked planes and flew them into the twin towers.

I agree with him.

He agrees that the towers collapsed as a result of the impacts, the dislodging of the fireproofing, and the extensive fires.

No. He just said it wasn't a controlled demolition.

To summarize, he REJECTS the fantasist myth.

So you agree with him about 7?

 

[FactCheck]

I KNEW Alex Jones would try and ride this. His site should be called "Infowhores".

This is par for the course. He once called the grieving mother of a shooting victim a child murderer because she wanted stronger gun regulations.

This was an egineering college. I hope this isn't my worse fear...

 

[eddyk]

Eyewitness accounts describe police hiding behind trees and failing to pursue the killer, while ordering the school to be placed on lockdown so nobody could escape the carnage as the killer picked off his targets with seemingly little interruption from the police.

Prison planet are SICK SICK SICK!!!!

This is terrible, hours after the shooting...and already they are blaming the government for it.


They also have a story on how the ban on guns at the college is the reason behind the high death toll.

If ANYONE could twist banning guns in schools into a bad thing...It'd be those sick fooks.


They (Alex Jones and co.) are probably HAPPY this has happened...as they have something else to blame the government on now.

 

[Earl The Tall]

So do I. Nice strawman.



I agree with him.



No. He just said it wasn't a controlled demolition.



So you agree with him about 7?

THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT 9/11! TAKE THAT DISCUSSION ELSE WHERE!

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Could we keep 9-11 discussion from spilling over into every thread that isn't specifically toed to 9-11?

EDIT: Earl beat me to it.

 

[TraitorBasher]

Could we keep 9-11 discussion from spilling over into every thread that isn't specifically toed to 9-11?

It is not my fault that Pomeroo is following me round asking these questions.

 

[rwguinn]

It is not my fault that Pomeroo is following me round asking these questions.

when a fellow goes tothe extremes you have to actually avoid answering specific questions, we will dog your heels like a bloodhound.
Now, back on topic--why are you not commenting on your earlier mistaken (apparently) conclusion about the shooter

 

[pomeroo]

So do I. Nice strawman.

A straw man? Really? You must inform your colleagues in the fantasy movement.

I agree with him.

Good for you!

No. He just said it wasn't a controlled demolition.

Yes. He told me that he has no problems with the mainstream explanation.

So you agree with him about 7?

No, he's wrong about WTC 7. He is the only demolition expert who has swallowed the fantasist snake oil.


Sorry to depart from the topic of this thread, but when you're tracking elusive quarry, you have to take whatever opportunities arise.

 

[sophia8]

Yes - PLEASE take the 9/11 stuff to a new thread!!!
33 now reported dead. That's 33 families - mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers - suffering harrowing grief and pain. And some people just want to argue over 9/11.
Thirty-three.


ETA: MODS, PLEASE DO SOMETHING.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

It is not my fault that Pomeroo is following me round asking these questions.

There are a number of things wich are your fault, not the least of wich being you completely missing the point of my original post.

I proposed that here was an opportunity to see how outrageous conspiracy theroies get started. Rather than see the plain meaning of my post, you chose to engage in an egregiously offensive and abhorrent round of self-centered self-pity claiming that this tragedy would get pinned on you "poor misunderstood twoofers".

Just please, leave this thread.

 

[pomeroo]

There are a number of things wich are your fault, not the least of wich being you completely missing the point of my original post.

I proposed that here was an opportunity to see how outrageous conspiracy theroies get started. Rather than see the plain meaning of my post, you chose to engage in an egregiously offensive and abhorrent round of self-centered self-pity claiming that this tragedy would get pinned on you "poor misunderstood twoofers".

Just please, leave this thread.

I'd like to remind everyone that this senseless tragedy is not a conspiracy. Creating a thread in the "conspiracy" forum has a purpose apart from expressing our collective shock. I don't yet know why a madman slaughtered over thirty people, but I know that it wasn't a "Black Op," or a "False Flag," or any other sort of lunacy dreamed up by despicable cretins who, whenever you decide that they can't possibly sink any lower, proceed to prove you wrong. Let's take it for granted that every sane person is appalled by this horrible crime. It is not insensitive, however, to discuss conspiracies in the conspiracy forum.

 

[boloboffin]

There actually is a tangential relationship to 9/11 questions. Fox News is putting on analyst after analyst excoriating the university for not doing more to protect the students after the first incident, even though all the facts are not in and the police are hesitant to even connect the two shootings at this point. This sounds a lot like truther logic when they say that the Pentagon attack should have been prevented after the towers were attacked.

And I would remind everyone that families have NOT been notified as of yet. There are thousands of families in fear and trembling right now, and several dozen will have their worst fears confirmed.

(the 33 figure includes the gunman, by the way)

 

[Pardalis]

I'm puzzled, what does this story have to do with conspiracy theories?

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

It is not my fault that Pomeroo is following me round asking these questions.

Need I remind you that you were the first to bring 9/11 into this thread?

How long before the police find a loose change dvd in this guys house and an attempt is made to connect it to the 911 truth movement?

Do yourself a favor and shut... up...

I'm puzzled, what does this story have to do with conspiracy theories?

I imagine it's here because some us never leave this subforum. Heh.

 

[Earl The Tall]

There actually is a tangential relationship to 9/11 questions. Fox News is putting on analyst after analyst excoriating the university for not doing more to protect the students after the first incident, even though all the facts are not in and the police are hesitant to even connect the two shootings at this point. This sounds a lot like truther logic when they say that the Pentagon attack should have been prevented after the towers were attacked.

And I would remind everyone that families have NOT been notified as of yet. There are thousands of families in fear and trembling right now, and several dozen will have their worst fears confirmed.

(the 33 figure includes the gunman, by the way)

I agree and disagree with you. I agree it seems like Fox is pushing for that idea, but I disagee that they seem to have a point. The school went under the impression that the first shooting was isolated and classes could resume, but they honeslty should have buffed the sercurity a bit around the campus. Would have it stopped the shooter? Maybe not but I think the response would have been a bit faster.

 

[boloboffin]

I agree with you that Fox doesn't have a point.