US Officially Blames Russia

[BobTheCoward]

Is Trump the biggest moron on the planet?

His tweet today, "Intelligence agencies should never have allowed this fake news to "leak" into the public. One last shot at me.Are we living in Nazi Germany?"


These are not classified documents. They are documents made by a private citizen as part of a financial deal. It would be really weird if intelligence agencies had the ability to stop it.

 

[BobTheCoward]

Fake news?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-10/4chan-claims-have-fabricated-anti-trump-report-hoax

Not fake news. The media is not saying the info is true. The documents are news worthy as they have had multiple mentions in committees and briefings.

 

[Lothian]

All I can say is that he has some going to beat our Prime Minister having sex with a dead Pig's head.

 

[Crossbow]

Wow!

It is starting to come out that the Trump Campaign was indeed in collusion with the Russians over the hacking into the Democrats. As such, Trump may end up as the first President to be impeached and thrown out of office during his first year in office.

I cannot say that I am surprised considering how much Trump tried to emulate 1972 Nixon campaign.

 

[BobTheCoward]

Wow!

It is starting to come out that the Trump Campaign was indeed in collusion with the Russians over the hacking into the Democrats. As such, Trump may end up as the first President to be impeached and thrown out of office during his first year in office.

I cannot say that I am surprised considering how much Trump tried to emulate 1972 Nixon campaign.

If by "starting to come out" you mean "no decent evidence" then sure

 

[Varanid]

Fake news?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-10/4chan-claims-have-fabricated-anti-trump-report-hoax

You just linked to a "report" written by Tyler Durden.

 

[Belz...]

I'm not answering yours until you answer mine.

I asked first, if you want to play that silly game. Your question is irrelevant. That some people sense corruption doesn't mean that the corruption exists, or that it applies to a completely different agency. You're appealing to popularity.

Did I use the word knowing?

You stated that the "community" was corrupt as a statement of fact. That presupposes knowledge, unless you now want to argue that you pulled that from your nether regions.

I also find it ironic that you try to go the "plausible deniability" route after so much railing against the government for engaging in such shady behaviours.

 

[Crossbow]

If by "starting to come out" you mean "no decent evidence" then sure

That is about the same thing people used to say about Nixon in the first several months after the Watergate break-in and yet look where that ended.

 

[BobTheCoward]

That is about the same thing people used to say about Nixon in the first several months after the Watergate break-in and yet look where that ended.

And those people were wrong to say those things then, also.

 

[Crossbow]

And those people were wrong to say those things then, also.

Like hell they were.

 

[BobTheCoward]

Like hell they were.

Non skeptical thinkers will be right sometimes. That doesn't mean their approach is reasonable.

 

[Andy_Ross]

I think there should be a sequence of protracted congressional investigations stretching on for years.

Fairs fair.

 

[Crossbow]

Non skeptical thinkers will be right sometimes. That doesn't mean their approach is reasonable.

This makes about as much sense as your claims that torture can be made legal in the USA.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

I think there should be a sequence of protracted congressional investigations stretching on for years.

Fairs fair.

the important thing is to never let the congressional investigations stop, even long after Trump has left the White House.
For as long as there is a GOP, the investigation has to continue, summoning to the stand every Republican who might consider running for President.

After all, didn't everyone say that Democrats need to learn from their mistakes?

 

[Belz...]

This makes about as much sense as your claims that torture can be made legal in the USA.

All it takes is a constitutional amendment.

 

[BobTheCoward]

This makes about as much sense as your claims that torture can be made legal in the USA.

You never replied after I quoted back to you where you said the court would overturn the precedent set by the head money cases.

 

[BobTheCoward]

All it takes is a constitutional amendment.

It wouldn't require an amendment. Congress can authorize torture in war under certain circumstances. The bill of rights are not universally extended to enemies on the battlefield.

 

[Belz...]

It wouldn't require an amendment. Congress can authorize torture in war under certain circumstances.

I did not know that, if true.

The bill of rights are not universally extended to enemies on the battlefield.

I'm pretty sure torturing enemies on the battlefield is a terrible idea. You should at least wait until you're back at the base.

 

[uke2se]

I did not know that, if true.



I'm pretty sure torturing enemies on the battlefield is a terrible idea. You should at least wait until you're back at the base.

The Geneva Convention, of which the US is a signatory, prohibits torture of enemies, so Bob is still wrong.

 

[phiwum]

You don't think that having an impossible burden of proof is unreasonable?

If the burden of proof is impossible, perhaps one should remain uncertain on the claim rather than proclaim, "It is impossible to prove, therefore must be assumed to be true!"

There is also the myth that negative claims[1] generally are unprovable, although some may well be.

[1] What people call negative claims are really better described as universal claims: For all x, Px. Not a single person thinks it is impossible to prove, "This is not a pipe."