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Understanding the Liberal Mindset

arthwollipot said:
Also, when you claim to be a Trump supporter and a libertarian, how can you stand by when "don't tread on me" transforms into "comply or die"?
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I believe in elementary school English grammar they call it "the understood 'you'": in the sentence "don't tread on me" there's an unspoken "you" in front. You don't tread on me. But I can and will tread on you. The emblem is literally a snake in the grass, it's not subtle.
 
TragicMonkey said:
I believe in elementary school English grammar they call it "the understood 'you'": in the sentence "don't tread on me" there's an unspoken "you" in front. You don't tread on me. But I can and will tread on you. The emblem is literally a snake in the grass, it's not subtle.
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Since you believe in elementary school grammar, allow me to correct yours. You need a period after the word "grammar." "They" begins a new sentence.
 
jt512 said:
Since you believe in elementary school grammar, allow me to correct yours. You need a period after the word "grammar." "They" begins a new sentence.
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I wasn't professing belief in elementary school grammar, I was pointing out what I believe elementary school grammar has to say. It's one sentence whose object is an independent clause.
 
TragicMonkey said:
I wasn't professing belief in elementary school grammar, I was pointing out what I believe elementary school grammar has to say. It's one sentence whose object is an independent clause.
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As written, it is a run-on sentence: two independent clauses joined without proper punctuation or a conjunction. HTH.
 
jt512 said:
As written, it is a run-on sentence: two independent clauses joined without proper punctuation or a conjunction. HTH.
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No, it isn't. The independent clause is the object of the sentence. There would be no punctuation there, and there is no necessity for a conjunction although an unnecessary "that" could be stuck in. The first part of the sentence is not a separate thought: I'm not declaring my belief in elementary school grammar as an article of faith.
 
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TragicMonkey said:
No, it isn't. The independent clause is the object of the sentence. There would be no punctuation there, and there is no necessity for a conjunction although an unnecessary "that" could be stuck in. The first part of the sentence is not a separate thought: I'm not declaring my belief in elementary school grammar as an article of faith.
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Ah, I see. Yeah, that that would have been useful.
 
TragicMonkey said:
I believe in elementary school English grammar they call it "the understood 'you'": in the sentence "don't tread on me" there's an unspoken "you" in front. You don't tread on me. But I can and will tread on you. The emblem is literally a snake in the grass, it's not subtle.
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But the ideals of libertarianism seem completely at odds with the authoritarian way the current administration is throwing its weight around - prosecution of political enemies, suppression of dissent, controlling the information flow. Where is the rugged small-government individualism?
 
arthwollipot said:
But the ideals of libertarianism seem completely at odds with the authoritarian way the current administration is throwing its weight around - prosecution of political enemies, suppression of dissent, controlling the information flow. Where is the rugged small-government individualism?
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I've never encountered an actual True Scotsman libertarian. All the ones I've run into only hold the principles of individualism when they think they're the individuals who don't need anything. The moment they even theoretically need something then suddenly it's entirely different and outright socialism is welcome.

My sibling's spouse has some uber-wealthy relatives (descendents of a 19th century railroad baron) who have never had to work a day in their lives for five or six generations now. (My sibling's spouse, unfortunately, comes from the branch that didn't inherit anything.) All of the younger ones profess to be Libertarians. They're rugged, dynamic individuals forging their own way in this world, and so can everyone else! Just dip into the principal on one of your trust funds if times get rough.
 
arthwollipot said:
But the ideals of libertarianism seem completely at odds with the authoritarian way the current administration is throwing its weight around - prosecution of political enemies, suppression of dissent, controlling the information flow. Where is the rugged small-government individualism?
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Libertarianism has only ever been a pimple on the bottom of USA politics.
 
arthwollipot said:
But the ideals of libertarianism seem completely at odds with the authoritarian way the current administration is throwing its weight around - prosecution of political enemies, suppression of dissent, controlling the information flow. Where is the rugged small-government individualism?
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There is no single meaning of libertarianism. There's 24:
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The 24 Types of Libertarian

TITLE: The 24 Types of Libertarian Balding white guy: no fair oversimplifying our simplistic philosophy! Caption: NAIVE Happy guy with goatee: if the government would DISAPPEAR, everyone would act …
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