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UK General Election

Seems the SNP really misunderstood the appetite for another independence referendum, they had been back peddling ever since the election was announced but does seem to have hurt them.
 
I suspect what happened to the Labour vote is that for the first time many people got exposed directly to Corbyn and people realised he wasn't quite the bogeyman the likes of the Mail portrayed him as.

One thing I am really, really hoping for no matter anything else is an increase of spending in the NHS, because of family and myself I have seen first hand how much damage Tory policies have caused.
 
I suspect what happened to the Labour vote is that for the first time many people got exposed directly to Corbyn and people realised he wasn't quite the bogeyman the likes of the Mail portrayed him as.

The same thing as happened with Ken Livingstone back when he became leader of the GLC.
 
I suspect what happened to the Labour vote is that for the first time many people got exposed directly to Corbyn and people realised he wasn't quite the bogeyman the likes of the Mail portrayed him as.

He lost, you know, and as badly as Gordon Brown did in 2005.

One thing I am really, really hoping for no matter anything else is an increase of spending in the NHS, because of family and myself I have seen first hand how much damage Tory policies have caused.

I can see the result affecting the Brexit negotiations, which will now be very difficult, but I'm struggling to see how there can suddenly be a whole lot of extra money found (above that promised in the Tory manifesto) for public services.
 
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I don't know much about UK politics.

Are the Tories unlikely to get a coalition that would allow them to govern?

Yes. With Sinn Fein not taking up their 7 seats the winning line is effectively 321, and they'll only be 2 or 3 seats short of that. They're sister party in Northern Ireland, the DUP has won 10 seats and already said they'll work with the conservatives (for a price).
 
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I can see the result affecting the Brexit negotiations, which will now be very difficult, but I'm struggling to see how there can suddenly be a whole lot of extra money found (above that promised in the Tory manifesto) for public services.

Spending priorities can be changed.
 
Is this more of that "upsurge of conservative nationalism" we've been hearing so much about? :rolleyes:

Theresa wanted a second, stronger Brexit vote and got (the party) kicked in the teeth as a result of her arrogant opportunism, IMHO. Maybe Brits don't like being taken for granted? Maybe when she started sounding like Jefferson Beauregard Sessions the last couple of days she turned sane voters off?

Good on ya!
That was the rationale she presented fire the election. Everyone knows it was just about her seeing some amazingly good polls and selfishly calling an election that was meant to consolidate her power and her partys.
 
Sinn Fein always refuse to take their seats in Parliament as a protest against rule from Westminster. So you can exclude their seats from the calculation, in effect.

Do they stand for elections of those seats or are they assigned to them with a treaty?

McHrozni
 
Of course they can. That's irrelevant. The question is why would they be changed?

Because the current Tory policies towards healthcare are causing harm to the NHSs especially NHS England and this was an area Labour campaigned on.
 
Seems the SNP really misunderstood the appetite for another independence referendum, they had been back peddling ever since the election was announced but does seem to have hurt them.

Not sure you can read that in to it at all. There seemed to be a lot of different dynamics at work and a Labour bounce thanks to Corbyn.

Not sure what backpedaling you are referring to. They made the election about keeping the Tories out which was fine until labour looked viable to do that job too. The unionist vote also seems to have been quite tactucal.

There's also just good old regression to the mean. This is still the SNPs second best ever showing at an election.
 
Anyone with a grasp of logic would see that if you need to 'ask the question again in 30 years' the answer is clearly expected to change over that period. If that was not the case you would not need to ask again.

But the question was posed now. Why should we have to wait 30 years for the answer? If you want to make the point that there will be more Muslims in the UK in 30 years, that's fine, but why make that point instead of answering the question?


I've posted about it often enough and as you have no intention of debating, merely firing off stupid questions for internet points, I'm not going to repeat myself here.

I've never seen a source for the notion that a significant part of the UK Muslim population is Islamist. I've certainly never seen one that says a significant part of the Muslim population in 30 years will be Islamist. I very much doubt you have such sources, unless they are called Tommy Robinson, bigot extraordinaire.


Sorry, sir! Please don't put me in detention sir!

More snark and still no answer.
 
It appears Yougov was right and just about everyone else (myself included) were wrong.

Yay :thumbsup::o

McHrozni

I think Survation predicted a hung parliament. The guy was on the Andrew Neil show talking about his big data model and was being pooh poohed by the "real journalists" who seemed to be mocking his general inarticulateness. But it seems he was right.
 
Because the current Tory policies towards healthcare are causing harm to the NHSs especially NHS England and this was an area Labour campaigned on.

Look, I'm with you on the principle of wanting more funding for the NHS. That's not the point. The point is, where is the incentive for the Tories to increase tax or borrowing to fund such an increase, or to chop spending elsewhere? They can't pull money out of thin air in the way Corbyn can.
 

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