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UK General Election

MikeG said:
I've just spent half an hour reading reactions at Conservative Home, and I'd guess that 9 out of 10 comments are calling for May to resign, with David Davies being the most favoured replacement. The logic is that May can't lead the conservatives into another election, so it is only a question of when she goes. It seems that that right wingers think she is on the left of the party, One Nation Tories think she is on the right, and she doesn't have any great support base, being something of an awkward loner. Looks like she is toast.......
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Which one, the Brexit boss or my local MP (and colossal tool) ?
 
MikeG said:
I suppose the bright side of any potential coalition is that the last time that happened it resulted in the virtual destruction of that party. Maybe the spotlight of being in government would spell the end for the DUP.
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Doubt it. If it was a national party with a broad support base then perhaps, but it's one of two unionist parties in N.I. and it seems that with UUP and SDLP losing their last seats, the polarisation of N.I. into Sinn Fein and the DUP is complete.
 
Another move away from Cameron's direction of travel towards a softer form of conservatism.

He is on record as opposing the DUP, specifically because of their stance on LBGT issues. I think Theresa May will have to tread very lightly if she doesn't want to end up in the quicksand on those issues.
 
Well at least the UK has a government supported by a bunch of homophobic creationists far better than relying on those SNP extremists
 
Worm said:
Another move away from Cameron's direction of travel towards a softer form of conservatism.

He is on record as opposing the DUP, specifically because of their stance on LBGT issues. I think Theresa May will have to tread very lightly if she doesn't want to end up in the quicksand on those issues.
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May is obviously opposed to religious extremists right up to the point where she needs them to hold onto power.
 
Undesired Walrus said:
Labour did hugely better in pop vote though didn't they?
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No, Labour lost that too - 39.9 to 42.4. Labour failed in every metric you care to mention aside from that of their own dismal performance two years ago. And now we have Corbyn on TV saying, "The losers in this election are the Conservatives." He's out of his tree.
 
baron said:
No, Labour lost that too - 39.9 to 42.4. Labour failed in every metric you care to mention aside from that of their own dismal performance two years ago. And now we have Corbyn on TV saying, "The losers in this election are the Conservatives." He's out of his tree.
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I mean better than 2015


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The Don said:
Which one, the Brexit boss or my local MP (and colossal tool) ?
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My guess is that it is David Davis. Though I would be surprised if he could become PM.

Now I am beginning to think it might be someone like Jacob Rees-Mogg, if only because he has said he will be totally and completely loyal to Theresa May and thinks that there should be no attempt to overthrow her.
 
Undesired Walrus said:
I mean better than 2015
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They increased their popular vote by 9% since 2015, yes, but that metric is scraping the bottom of the barrel when it comes to measuring their performance this time around. There's no question Corbyn campaigned better than May but it is bizarre for him, and others, to herald Labour's decisive defeat as a victory.
 
Betting on the next Conservative leader.

Boris, DD, Ruth Davidson, Amber Rudd, Philip Hammond.......in that order. Tobias Elwood, the guy who got covered in blood during the Westminster terrorist attack a few months ago, is at 33:1. I can't think Amber Rudd has any chance, now that she is in a marginal constituency.
 
angrysoba said:
.......Now I am beginning to think it might be someone like Jacob Rees-Mogg.......
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Erm.................no. He's 66:1, BTW, but anyway I doubt there is much appetite for another Old Etonian right now.
 
baron said:
They increased their popular vote by 9% since 2015, yes, but that metric is scraping the bottom of the barrel when it comes to measuring their performance this time around. There's no question Corbyn campaigned better than May but it is bizarre for him, and others, to herald Labour's decisive defeat as a victory.
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Well, he may be a homopathic-believing, Islamist-friendly, Sinn Fein-supporting pal lacking charisma and with a bunch of the sorriest sadsacks in politics (McDonnell, Abbott, and Thornberry) for his allies, but the Labour Party has been a demoralized shambles since the days of Gordon Brown. Given how much he has been hamstrung by his own Parliamentary Party, he has had a pretty remarkable election. He has certainly surprised me by essentially not being absolutely crushed in debate.

Of course, it helped that Theresa May is useless, but I wonder if the Parliamentary Labour Party may end up won over. Some of Corbyn's foes who had believed Corbyn to be a political deadend offering no opportunity for self-serving personal advancement, are no apparently thinking again and may even think it is worth sucking up to him after all. People like Chuka Ummuna and Owen Smith. If any others believe the political wind favours the Corbster, they may start adding a bit of heft to the party instead of sulking on the sidelines.
 
MikeG said:
Erm.................no. He's 66:1, BTW, but anyway I doubt there is much appetite for another Old Etonian right now.
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No, it will definitely be Jacob Rees-Mogg. Or Ruth Davidson. Or Amber Rudd, or Dominic Raab.

I think David Davis or Boris Johnson would be ridiculous choices. I don't think they would have the backing, unless the Tory leadership is simply a poisoned chalice that absolutely nobody in their right mind would go near.
 
angrysoba said:
No, it will definitely be Jacob Rees-Mogg. Or Ruth Davidson. Or Amber Rudd, or Dominic Raab........
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Or Liz Truss. Or James Cleverly. Or Priti Patel. Or Justine Greening. I don't think we're helping......:D
 
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