Merged UFO @ Jerusalem, 2011. Call Captain-D

tsig said:
Are you trying to back around into the point that some fake videos don't prove that all videos are faked therefore aliens?
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No I'm not trying to do that. I am criticizing that fake Jerusalem video just like what I have said, but I think it illustrates the double standard of so-called skeptics regarding video evidence. Also that it is actually hard to ascertain the authenticity of a video and that a so-called skeptic will never accept only a video as proof of ufo/aliens.

So can we agree that the fake Jerusalem video serves no point whatsoever?
 
kageki said:
No I'm not trying to do that. I am criticizing that fake Jerusalem video just like what I have said, but I think it illustrates the double standard of so-called skeptics regarding video evidence. Also that it is actually hard to ascertain the authenticity of a video and that a so-called skeptic will never accept only a video as proof of ufo/aliens.

So can we agree that the fake Jerusalem video serves no point whatsoever?
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However, it's not just about the video. It's about the whole circumstance.
It's about a body of evidence building up, the video being just one part of it.

There are no double standards here.
 
kageki said:
No I'm not trying to do that. I am criticizing that fake Jerusalem video just like what I have said, but I think it illustrates the double standard of so-called skeptics regarding video evidence. Also that it is actually hard to ascertain the authenticity of a video and that a so-called skeptic will never accept only a video as proof of ufo/aliens.
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No skeptic will take a single video as proof of anything that is extraordinary. It is too easy to fake them. You need something more substantial and independent. So far, that independence has no appeared in the Jerusalem videos. Two of them came from the same spot (they appeared on the 29th as best I can tell), the third was a bad hoax trying to cash in on the first two, and the fourth appeared days later (on February 2nd from what I can tell) after the first two had been on the web for all to see. No real independent confirmation of the videos has occurred. That could be produced by live video from security cameras and multiple witness reports from the area. Nothing of the sort has occurred, which means the videos should be considered highly suspect (as if they weren't already).
 
Akhenaten said:
That's probably because what you keep trying to ask is completely pointless, as, it seems, are everyone's efforts to explain to you why these videos are fakes.
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Wow, this is just like a discussion with a Holocaust Denier...

Oh wait, Kegeki is one......
 
dudalb said:
Wow, this is just like a discussion with a Holocaust Denier...

Oh wait, Kegeki is one......
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Wow someone else that can't read a thread.

Well I'm glad we established that the fake Jerusalem video serves no point at all.
 
Angel Love said:
manniequinn your link doesn't work. If it did I will assume that it's video 4 not video 3, that would explain why you see cars :D

Notice the title : Jerusalem UFO update - Three angles on synch - 4th footage Ultimate proof

And yea I was right.
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yea i was tryin to put the link correct on here but when i posted i was a new member so it wouldnt let me, i had to find a way to cheat it haha, but thankss
 
Stray Cat said:
Welcome to the forum Manniequinn.
As Angel Love has said, the middle video (video 4) is actually a video.
The still photo was used for video number 3.

But if you believe the event to be genuine, I await with excited antici...



.... pation, your analysis to show how everything is perfectly in place and to be expected in a video.
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well thank you haha, and honestly I am a person who would like to believe that there is something out there, so when i see videos like this I am always hoping that they are true. I'm no video analyst and i dare not even put myself in any category close to that but I just figured i'd put my two cents in so maybe someone with more knowledge could shed some light on the matter. if its fake then so be it, but if not then I would like to have had some part in showing that it isn't. :p
 
Having just read this thread from front to back, I just had to pop in to say:
Kageki, you are an incredibly dishonest person. You've been shown to be wrong multiple times, and each time you react by goalpost moving and attacking the people who show you to be wrong. Whatever reason you are here for, it isn't for finding the truth of the matter.

Also, hat tip to Stray Cat's excellent sleuthing.
 
Mister Earl said:
Having just read this thread from front to back, I just had to pop in to say:
Kageki, you are an incredibly dishonest person. You've been shown to be wrong multiple times, and each time you react by goalpost moving and attacking the people who show you to be wrong. Whatever reason you are here for, it isn't for finding the truth of the matter.

Also, hat tip to Stray Cat's excellent sleuthing.
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None of that is true and no one has disagreed that the fake Jerusalem video serves no point at all.

If the videos have been conclusively proven to be fake then so be it. I haven't pursued the matter at this point so your post was not just wrong, but unnecessary.
 
kageki said:
None of that is true and no one has disagreed that the fake Jerusalem video serves no point at all.

If the videos have been conclusively proven to be fake then so be it. I haven't pursued the matter at this point so your post was not just wrong, but unnecessary.
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Still attempting to switch the burden of proof, then?
 
kageki said:
None of that is true and no one has disagreed that the fake Jerusalem video serves no point at all.
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Everything I said was true. The second part of that statement is a dodge. You have been shown to be factually incorrect in this thread, and you refuse to address this. A simple "I'm sorry, I was wrong" would do much for your credibility.

kageki said:
If the videos have been conclusively proven to be fake then so be it. I haven't pursued the matter at this point so your post was not just wrong, but unnecessary.
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Are you conceding that the video you were viciously defending as real is a forgery, as was stated by pretty much everyone else earlier?
 
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