Merged Two Mosques to be built near Ground Zero

[AvalonXQ]

At a conservative site I lurk at this came up and they too went on and on about the eviiils of Islam using the same language you refer to above. A fellow conservative pointed out to them the first amendment and the government cannot stop them from building the mosque the rest of them turned on him and reviled him for his lack of understanding the Constitution. If I recall correctly their arguments were one of either:

1. The bill of rights only restricts what the federal government can do. State and local government are ok to discriminate on the basis of religion.

2. Islam does not qualify as a religion

3. The Constitution is not a suicide pact and in times of war, like this, we can suspend certain parts of it.

The poor conservative who argued against these self-proclaimed "constitutionalists" was ridiculed roundly and accused of being a liberal.

ETA: I forgot to add that they all know that teh mosque will become a training ground for new terrorists. Seriously.

Which site is this?

 

[Thunder]

http://wcbstv.com/local/staten.island.mosque.2.1760381.html

Looks like the parish Priest for the convent in SI is having second thoughts.

Check out this statement by a neighbor, of why she doesn't want the sale to go through:

"Resident Debra Pulice said she felt betrayed by the Archdiocese.

"One of the Ten Commandments is, 'Do not worship false Gods.' So for a Catholic church to sell this to what we would perceive as a false God, that's what really hurt me," she said. "

No, Mrs. Pulice. Muslims and Christians worship the same God.

Damn you people are stupid.

 

[AvalonXQ]

No, Mrs. Pulice. Muslims and Christians worship the same God.

Many Christians do not believe this.

 

[GreNME]

Many Christians do not believe this.

Oh, well, that makes it okay then.

 

[Thunder]

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/ground.zero.mosque.2.1792024.html


and now State-wide politics, has entered the fray.

GOP candidate Lazio wants Dem. candidate Cuomo, who is currently NY AG, to investigate the funding of the mosque/rec. center.

and still, folks are accusing this mosque of being "at" Ground Zero, and even "on" Ground Zero.

New York truly has its share of morons and bigots.

 

[Thunder]

today, the bigots were at Hunter College, arguing how this mosque and cultural center is an act of treason and a victory for terrorists.

i wish I could have been there, to show them what I think of their bigoted views.

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/ground.zero.mosque.2.1801452.html

 

[MikeMangum]

While I don't support the government preventing a mosque from being built close to ground zero, I also don't mind calling a spade a spade. It is being built by a supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood, and the very name and location are strongly indicative that the whole purpose is triumphalism (it is to be named the 'Cordoba House').

Mischief in Manhattan:
We Muslims know the Ground Zero mosque is meant to be a deliberate provocation

New York currently boasts at least 30 mosques so it's not as if there is pressing need to find space for worshippers. The fact we Muslims know the idea behind the Ground Zero mosque is meant to be a deliberate provocation to thumb our noses at the infidel. The proposal has been made in bad faith and in Islamic parlance, such an act is referred to as "Fitna," meaning "mischief-making" that is clearly forbidden in the Koran.

 

[Thunder]

It is being built by a supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood,

proof?

thought not. what the hell does some fool in Ottawa know about the Cordoba Institute? they look pretty tolerant and moderate to me, and I have no problem with them buiding a mosque anywhere in NYC.

plus, I am a New Yorker and a Jew.

 

[AvalonXQ]

Thunder's got it right on this one. Let them build their cultural center.
The bigots who are saying otherwise are really starting to bother me. Palin lost my respect over this issue.

 

[KingMerv00]

Palin lost my respect over this issue.

Better late than never.

 

[Bell]

proof?

thought not. what the hell does some fool in Ottawa know about the Cordoba Institute? they look pretty tolerant and moderate to me, and I have no problem with them buiding a mosque anywhere in NYC.

plus, I am a New Yorker and a Jew.

No man! This is important. Wilders himself is willing to fly to New York and protest this

 

[ddt]

No man! This is important. Wilders himself is willing to fly to New York and protest this

While we're still in negotiations over a new government, and especially at the moment over a coalition which includes Wilders' party. Nice set of priorities does he have. Can't you just keep him there?

 

[Ladewig]

I see no reason to try to stop them: partly because I love the Constitution and partly because any legal challenge against them is doomed.

I am unsure what to make of their desire to open it on the tenth anniversary of 9/11. That part leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

 

[TraneWreck]

I don't want to read the whole thread. There is nothing complex, subtle, or controversial about this issue. That's not a slam on people posting, just an excuse for my laziness if I'm covering well-trodden ground.

I just wanted to ask if anyone had pointed out that THERE'S A MOSQUE IN THE PENTAGON:

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/08/05/muslims_infiltrate_pentagon

The ability to suddenly be offended by things when elections are approaching is amazing.

 

[Bell]

While we're still in negotiations over a new government, and especially at the moment over a coalition which includes Wilders' party. Nice set of priorities does he have.

But it is a top priority for a Dutch politician to have his opinion heard on the building of a mosque in New York City a couple of blocks away from the World Trade Center site. He has to think of his nujij.nl audience.

And maybe he feels it is his cause because New York has Dutch roots, when Dutch immigrants came to America and settled there. And now he has to protect those Dutch roots from Islam and foreign immigrants bringing Islam to New York

Can't you just keep him there?

Why do you hate New York?

 

[Bell]

I don't want to read the whole thread. There is nothing complex, subtle, or controversial about this issue. That's not a slam on people posting, just an excuse for my laziness if I'm covering well-trodden ground.

I just wanted to ask if anyone had pointed out that THERE'S A MOSQUE IN THE PENTAGON:

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/08/05/muslims_infiltrate_pentagon

The ability to suddenly be offended by things when elections are approaching is amazing.

Riiight... I hope that reporter is being sarcastic. Either that or a huge bigot.

 

[TraneWreck]

Riiight... I hope that reporter is being sarcastic. Either that or a huge bigot.

The opening should give you a hint:

"The "ground zero mosque" story seems to be dying down, but nothing lays bare the absurdity of what we've just lived through quite so much as this Washington Times story, quoted above, from 2007."

I think his point is pretty clear.

 

[ddt]

But it is a top priority for a Dutch politician to have his opinion heard on the building of a mosque in New York City a couple of blocks away from the World Trade Center site. He has to think of his nujij.nl audience.

Ah yes, those 1.5 million morons who voted for him may not be disenfranchised.

Shouldn't his salary as MP not be cut for the days he is absent without leave?

And maybe he feels it is his cause because New York has Dutch roots, when Dutch immigrants came to America and settled there. And now he has to protect those Dutch roots from Islam and foreign immigrants bringing Islam to New York

Why do you hate New York?

Sorry. I hope he is a bit careless in crossing the street, then.

And obligatory comment on the mosque issue: what a non-issue and what a bunch of bigots to complain about this.

 

[Sledge]

Parky, would you be ok with the mosque being built if the Imam was a transsexual?

 

[Thunder]

Parky, would you be ok with the mosque being built if the Imam was a transsexual?