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Tuesday Afternoon Massacre

C_Felix said:
Slightly OT:

I looked up sentencing guidelines....
RS was convicted on 5 counts of making false statements to Congress.

The guideline is:



7-9 years is not unreasonable.
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It's a joke. Drop the traitors in the deepest hole to be found and fill it in on top of them.
 
This is all just to keep Stone Quiet on Jerome Corsi's Collusion with Russia in the 2016 Campaign and hide the Obstruction that saved Corsi and Trump.
 
Crazy Chainsaw said:
This is all just to keep Stone Quiet on Jerome Corsi's Collusion with Russia in the 2016 Campaign and hide the Obstruction that saved Corsi and Trump.
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it's more than that.
It's to demonstrate that everyone who crimes for Trump gets a out-of-jail-free Card.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
it's more than that.
It's to demonstrate that everyone who crimes for Trump gets a out-of-jail-free Card.
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Yes Total breakdown of Law and order and logic.
This didn't start with Donald John Trump, though this started with the breakdown of Investigative Journalism, and the adoption of what used to be known as Yellow Journalism, now just full out Propogandists.
I saw this occuring a decade ago, but stayed silent now your seeing it brought mainstream It's McConnell Republicanism do anything even murder if you need too to win.
I am not saying the sky is falling, I am saying the asteroid has already hit and you better be sheltering from the rain of Motlen BS. coming from Trump's Administration.
 
Lesson from Nixon Impeachment: we need better tools to investigate Presidents
Lesson from Clinton Impeachment: we went a bit too far, we need fewer tools to investigate Presidents
Lesson from Trump Impeachment: we need better tools to investigate those who dare to investigate the President.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Lesson from Nixon Impeachment: we need better tools to investigate Presidents
Lesson from Clinton Impeachment: we went a bit too far, we need fewer tools to investigate Presidents
Lesson from Trump Impeachment: we need better tools to investigate those who dare to investigate the President.
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Lessons from Trump Presidency, any idiot who can't do a 5 seconds Google and debunk an idiot Conspiracy Theory shouldn't be President of the United States of America.
https://youtu.be/etu-cH-nkIA
 
https://twitter.com/alex_mallin/status/1227678397452705793

New: Sen @LindseyGrahamSC told @caphilltrish he was briefed by AG Barr on the DOJ's reversal in the Stone sentencing. Graham says Barr told him “that the guidelines call for 3 1/2 to 4 1/2 [yrs] for an offense like this" and DOJ made the decision on the reversal Monday night.
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https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/1227678821274484736

Basically, Lindsey is revealing that Bill Barr lied outright to him. And ... Lindsey is okay with that.
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The Great Zaganza said:
Lesson from Nixon Impeachment: we need better tools to investigate Presidents
Lesson from Clinton Impeachment: we went a bit too far, we need fewer tools to investigate Presidents
Lesson from Trump Impeachment: we need better tools to investigate those who dare to investigate the President.
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Republican Lesson from Nixon Impeachment: We need better media tools to control the narrative and prevent another Republican President from ending up this way.

Republican Lesson from Trump Impeachment: Creation of FOX News and Sinclair group has proven successful.
 
This whole charade seems more like a pretext to commute or pardon than an actual attempt to reduce his sentence. Judges have tremendous power in their courts, and this kind of stunt is not likely to sway Jackson's decision.

There's been a lot of speculation that Trump will start pardoning all his cronies after the election, since public perception won't matter at that point. Perhaps he's feeling bold with the impeachment acquittal under his belt and will start springing his cronies now.

Or perhaps Trump isn't planning to pardon, and his attempts to reduce sentencing is sincere. Hard to say.
 
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Squeegee Beckenheim said:
Barr will testify before the House Judiciary Committee next month
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That's something I don't understand. AFAIK Barr was totally willing to blow off the House in impeachment hearings (actually I'm not really sure how much the House pursued him). But then Nadler says, "come over, we want to ask you some questions about what may be unethical behavior in the Stone case, " and he just days "sure" and it's penciled in for next month?

Does Barr think this will be good for the Trump administration?
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Lesson from Nixon Impeachment: we need better tools to investigate Presidents
Lesson from Clinton Impeachment: we went a bit too far, we need fewer tools to investigate Presidents
Lesson from Trump Impeachment: we need better tools to investigate those who dare to investigate the President.
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Lesson from Trump Impeachment: The US needs to codify Senate trial rules about witnesses and evidence and not throw together some slapdash set of rules and procedures .
 
Rudy Giuliani attacking the Stone juror by name on Twitter.

No one is safe from Trump's vindictive justice department.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
This whole charade seems more like a pretext to commute or pardon than an actual attempt to reduce his sentence. Judges have tremendous power in their courts, and this kind of stunt is not likely to sway Jackson's decision.

There's been a lot of speculation that Trump will start pardoning all his cronies after the election, since public perception won't matter at that point. Perhaps he's feeling bold with the impeachment acquittal under his belt and will start springing his cronies now.

Or perhaps Trump isn't planning to pardon, and his attempts to reduce sentencing is sincere. Hard to say.
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That's so Stone will not reviel who Jerome Corsi's Friend in the Russian Embassy in Italy is exposing Trumpsters actual Collusion with Russia!
 
Trump Tweeted

Now it looks like the fore person in the jury, in the Roger Stone case, had significant bias. Add that to everything else, and this is not looking good for the “Justice” Department. @foxandfriends @FoxNews
 
Minoosh said:
That's something I don't understand. AFAIK Barr was totally willing to blow off the House in impeachment hearings (actually I'm not really sure how much the House pursued him). But then Nadler says, "come over, we want to ask you some questions about what may be unethical behavior in the Stone case, " and he just days "sure" and it's penciled in for next month?

Does Barr think this will be good for the Trump administration?
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Yes. He can blow off all criticism for a month, then have Trump block his testimony the night before and tell Congress to go **** themselves all while "cooperating." You don't think he's actually sincere about testifying, do you?
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweeted

Now it looks like the fore person in the jury, in the Roger Stone case, had significant bias. Add that to everything else, and this is not looking good for the “Justice” Department. @foxandfriends @FoxNews
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Leaving aside the fact that this is blatantly setting up a parton/commutation, surely the people this reflects badly on would be Stone's lawyers who could dismiss any jury member they chose? Either they didn't think it was a problem at the time, or they didn't even bother to go as far as to google the jurors.
 
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