Truthers mis-speaking about physics

[Nursedan]

Hi first thread here -

This is probably way too late, but does anyone here think that truthers ever catch themselves using phrases that make no sense? I've heard Dylan Avery say over and over in many videos that "the laws of physics were shattered on 9/11".

I always want to shake my computer and tell him that, no, the laws of physics were not shattered because they cannot be shattered!!! What you mean to say is that if what our government tells us to be true is in fact true, then the laws of physics must have been shattered.

Ugh. I know I'm late to the party but does anyone else get bothered by basic language gaffes like that one?

Happy to be a member of the JREF.

 

[Furcifer]

Welcome Nursedan.

There really is no end to what Truthers will say. I believe a list of such sayings was compiled by the forum before, perhaps under "Truthers say the darndest things" or something like that.

Being jaw droppingly stupid is a requirement of being a Truther, so saying jaw droppingly stupid things follows naturally. Stick around and watch, I promise you they won't disappoint.

edit: not from members of this forum mind you.

 

[Scott Sommers]

There already is a topic dealing with something similar
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=169075&highlight=moonies

While not directly related to physics, and not nearly the most retarded thing a Truther has ever said, Red Ibis is guilty of one of the more bizarre acts of illiteracy committed on this forum.

In this post, it is pointed out to him that the Washington Post is owned by the Moonies
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=5646378#post5646378

Then later Red Ibis claims he is very familiar with the Post
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=5647852#post5647852

Red Ibis becomes confused because I say the Post is owned by the Moonies
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=5651947#post5651947

So even though he has been told this already and claims to be ohhhh so well informed about the facts of things about 911 and the current events, I then have to point this out to him word-by-word
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=5651964#post5651964

The whole thread itslef is a good read since it shows the speed at which Truthers digest the facts.

 

[DC]

But even experts say dumb stuff.

here is Sunder from NIST explaining detailed how the towers collapsed in only 9 and 11 seconds......
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/cons-flash.html

 

[Travis]

Net force = zero!



It still cracks me up.

 

[Dog Town]

But even experts say dumb stuff.

Sadly. twoofers never understand, that it is not the expert saying "dumb stuff"!
It's the Twoofers interpretation of things that is lacking, in intelligent understanding!


Sad, but damn funny!

 

[twinstead]

twinstead said some dumb stuff when he married his first wife: "I DO".

 

[fitzgibbon]

Ugh. I know I'm late to the party but does anyone else get bothered by basic language gaffes like that one?

Happy to be a member of the JREF.

Welcome aboard, Nursedan. 'Truthers' rely on their own lack of familiarity with such inflexible concepts as mathematics and physics (and that of their adherents), instead appealing to repeated assertions of incredulity as trumps. Even when spoonfed the most basic concepts that should lead an open mind to verifiable fact (witness the patient attempts of Ryan Mackey among others), there seems to be a general preference among 'truthers' to inhabit the rabbit hole rather than the real world.

Denial is their response to fact.

 

[beachnut]

"Experts" from 911 truth say dumb stuff. You can't read their work without moronic tripe spewing from their insane minds.

When Jones first published in a letter his insane work invoking thermite, he made claims about "Conservation of Momentum" and "the Second Law of Thermodynamics" to fool the idiots who are now 911 truthers. Not surprising Jones insanity has him claiming the United States caused the earthquake in Haiti, will he claim the earthquake felt in San Diego was too?

Truthers blindly follow 911 truth experts who spew lies, and they can't check the original 911 expert work because they don't have any work to check past their failed talk and insane claims.

But even experts say dumb stuff.

here is Sunder from NIST explaining detailed how the towers collapsed in only 9 and 11 seconds......
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/cons-flash.html

LOL, but you don't have to listen to Sunder, you can go to the source documents and read the truth. You like to quote mine like 911 truth and fail. With 911 truth claims there is no massive collection of work to check the claims and correct the statements. But with Sunder you can clearly go to the thousands of pages of reports and find what 911 truth can't comprehend.

With 911 truth all you get is piles of lunatic ravings and when you check the source you find more insanity.

 

[T.A.M.]

DC;

Care to be more specific as to what Sunder said that you find "dumb". I listened to his section on the collapses, and while it was "simplified" (likely keeping his audience in mind) I fail to see what part was "dumb".

TAM

 

[sts60]

There already is a topic dealing with something similar
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=169075&highlight=moonies

While not directly related to physics, and not nearly the most retarded thing a Truther has ever said, Red Ibis is guilty of one of the more bizarre acts of illiteracy committed on this forum.

In this post, it is pointed out to him that the Washington Post is owned by the Moonies...

*cough* Washington Times.

(Which, of course, you correctly specified in the cited threads.)

 

[Furcifer]

Net force = zero!
It still cracks me up.

My two contributions to the forum, dragging Greg Urich into the fray, which was educational and ultimately productive.

And bringing Net force = zero! boy from YouTube, which provided some much needed comic relief.

p'Doh (version 1) and Stundie were before my time but were legends in their own minds from what I've heard. I don't know if anyone can claim credit for them or if they wandered off the property and found their way here on their own.

 

[ElMondoHummus]

p'Doh (version 1) and Stundie were before my time but were legends in their own minds from what I've heard. I don't know if anyone can claim credit for them or if they wandered off the property and found their way here on their own.

I think P'Doh caught all the references to this forum at the Screw Loose Change blog, and that's probably what motivated him to wander over.

Why he would, though, I have no idea. He had his head handed to him consistently in the SLC comments area, and there was no way he was going to do any better over here.

 

[Monza]

I think the most common statement is that the towers fell at "free fall speed". Of course, what is really meant is "acceleration due to gravity" since the speed is ever increasing.

 

[Alferd_Packer]

what about "they fell at faster than free fall?"

 

[Furcifer]

I think P'Doh caught all the references to this forum at the Screw Loose Change blog, and that's probably what motivated him to wander over.

Why he would, though, I have no idea. He had his head handed to him consistently in the SLC comments area, and there was no way he was going to do any better over here.

S&M.

In the brief time I had the unfortune of interacting with pDoh at SLC I had the creepy feeling he got off on getting pwned. Not enjoyed it, but got some personal satisfaction from it.

Christophera was another and Heiwa bordered on it, but he had his own obliviousness that was unique.

 

[Orphia Nay]

I think the most common statement is that the towers fell at "free fall speed". Of course, what is really meant is "acceleration due to gravity" since the speed is ever increasing.

what about "they fell at faster than free fall?"

Those are good ones. Then there's "they fell at the speed of gravity".

Welcome to the forum, Nursedan.

You might like the site, Nutty 9/11 Physics:

http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/pseudosc/911nutphysics.htm

 

[rwguinn]

You giys are not being realisice about this.
I mean, 490Mph+127ft wingspan=617 foot fireball (or something like that)

 

[sylvan8798]

My personal fave is anything that claims the top of WTC 2 should have remained intact and rolled over the bottom and out into the street in 1 piece, kind of like the top of a tree being cut down...

Oh, and of course, any "model" of the towers involving food (eggs, lemons).

 

[Scott Sommers]

*cough* Washington Times.

(Which, of course, you correctly specified in the cited threads.)

I've been caught. I'm actually a deep cover Truther.

Thanks.