Trump's Second Term

[Donal]

You do realize that this plane isn't actually going to be his, right?

Because he said so? Ya, its only going to be kept at his presidential brothe...err library for his use.

 

[Donal]

No, it's got nothing to do with me believing him.

You sure do seem to like taking him at his word.

I believe it's not going to be his because it already belongs to the DoD. And Trump can't just lay claim to government property.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

No president gets to do that. And if they could, what difference would it make where that property originated before it was government property?

Right, because he wouldn't do anything untraditional, unethical, or illegal. How much of his crypto did you buy?

 

[Ziggurat]

Right, because he wouldn't do anything untraditional, unethical, or illegal.

Ethics and tradition aren't the issue. And what did he loot at the end of his first term?

 

[johnny karate]

You're the one who posted the violation of the NPT obligation in response to a post about the Obama/Iran deal, so the confusion seems to be yours.

You also seem to be suggesting that Iran had a string of violations going back 20+ years. Besides the violation(s) at the starting point of that timeline and the one you referenced in 2025, what other violations have there been?

Bump for Ziggurat.

 

[johnny karate]

What's the mechanism for that?

Here you go.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Q: Do you think Americans will be willing to pay more than $5 for a gallon of gas?

JOHNSON: No. The hostilities and the military operation in Iran are limited in scope. The president said it will be over soon. It's been remarkably successful. Over 5,000 targets struck. The leadership of the country, the regime has been turned over to a next generation.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2031396312604610696

 

[Andy_Ross]

Ethics and tradition aren't the issue. And what did he loot at the end of his first term?

He wasn't expecting to be out at the end of his first term.

He won't make the same mistake this time.

 

[Ziggurat]

He wasn't expecting to be out at the end of his first term.

He won't make the same mistake this time.

Let's see if anyone wants to jump in now to claim Trump will try to become President for life.

 

[Donal]

Ethics and tradition aren't the issue.

Certainly not for him

And what did he loot at the end of his first term?

His entire term was a sales funnel. He constantly used his office to pump money into his own pocket. From overcharging Secret Service agents for rooms at his white trash Versailles, to foreign dignitaries over paying for his bed bug repository down the block from the white House. He used national parks for campaign events and oh ya, tried to extort a personal favor from a foreign country in exchange for help on his campaign.

 

[NM156]

What's the mechanism for that?

Uh, bank accounts I would assume.

 

[Ziggurat]

His entire term was a sales funnel. He constantly used his office to pump money into his own pocket.

That's a different claim, though. Objectionable as you might find that, it isn't taking government property, which is the claim here regarding the plane from Qatar.

 

[Donal]

Let's see if anyone wants to jump in now to claim Trump will try to become President for life.

Declare a national emergency and seize the ballot boxes from targeted areas. While he doesn't have readily apparent mechanisms to declare himself king...what's to stop him? Causing chaos alone will be enough to break whatever weak guard rails are still in place.

 

[NM156]

Let's see if anyone wants to jump in now to claim Trump will try to become President for life.

Anyone paying attention would make that claim.

Cowards who refuse to acknowledge reality won't, but we don't see much of them.

 

[Donal]

That's a different claim, though. Objectionable as you might find that, it isn't taking government property, which is the claim here regarding the plane from Qatar.

Yes, it is illegal. There is a clause in the Constitution specifically about that. Its the whole reason impeachment was included.

Just because he isn't going to hold the deed to it doesn't mean he won't try to keep it for himself.

 

[Ziggurat]

Anyone paying attention would make that claim.

Are you saying Andy Ross isn't paying attention? He seems to think Trump will leave office after this term. Why don't you and he hash it out, then come back when you've settled on an answer.

 

[gabeygoat]

And what did he loot at the end of his first term?

A ◊◊◊◊ ton of classified documents.

 

[johnny karate]

Let's see if anyone wants to jump in now to claim Trump will try to become President for life.

He and the MAGA faithful certainly want that and have explicitly expressed that desire.

 

[NM156]

No, it's got nothing to do with me believing him. I believe it's not going to be his because it already belongs to the DoD. And Trump can't just lay claim to government property. No president gets to do that. And if they could, what difference would it make where that property originated before it was government property?

Like classified documents??

 

[NM156]

Are you saying Andy Ross isn't paying attention? He seems to think Trump will leave office after this term. Why don't you and he hash it out, then come back when you've settled on an answer.

Why would I bother?

 

[Ziggurat]

Why would I bother?

Well, you probably have more common ground with him than with me. You're bothering to engage with me, why won't you engage with him?