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since when has legality had anything to do with this?I don't think dead presidents' 'instructions' are legally valid orders.
since when has legality had anything to do with this?I don't think dead presidents' 'instructions' are legally valid orders.
So these instructions are valid only if an Iranian assassinates you, Donny? What if your assassin is, perhaps, a US citizen with a lawfully owned gun? Or a Russian tourist with a poisoned umbrella? Or a Chinese diplomat slipping something into your Diet Coke? Or some Saudi pilots flying kidnapped aircraft into buildings? (This does sound like an international version of Cluedo, doesn't it!)President Trump said earlier that he's "left instructions" if Iran assassinates him
"That would be a terrible thing for them to do, not because of me. If they did that, they would be obliterated. That would be the end. I've left instructions."
"There wouldn't be anything left."
Message for Iran: Trump cannot be trusted any further than you can roll him with your left hand.FULL SPEECH BY TRUMP:
“Military operations will continue until all of our objectives are achieved.
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The entire military command is gone, and many want to surrender.
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The U.S. will avenge the deaths of Americans.”
Trump to Iranian people: “The rest will be up to you, but we will be with you.
Do you think the stupid ◊◊◊◊◊ in this corrupt administration underestimated Iran's ability to strike back? I think yes.Iran struck a U.S. naval facility in Bahrain, near Salman Port, which is now on fire.
Okay. Last word.I clearly stated I would not be discussing the matter further and why which is exactly what I predicted, yet you don't want to let it go. So, yes, you seem to want a confrontation. So have the last word and then please stop as you'll get no further response from me on the matter.
I don't agree. I'd usually ask for evidence for that kind of hyperbolic claim, but I don't want to get into a derail and the tedious back and forth which would certainly ensue. So, I won't be commenting on it again.
It's worth noting that what you quoted did not claim that MAGA cultists are centrists. You take issue with the prediction that self-described centrists will act in the same way as MAGA cultists in this instance? Okay. Feel free to object. I'd like to say please don't make your objection something that doesn't really apply there, though.
Can't fail if you refuse to define success. I predict Trump will give himself an A-plus-plus-plus-plus, but he's well within his rights to give himself an A-plus-plus-plus-plus-plus.FULL SPEECH BY TRUMP:
“Military operations will continue until all of our objectives are achieved.
Do you think the stupid ◊◊◊◊◊ in this corrupt administration underestimated Iran's ability to strike back? I think yes.
See line 2 of my sig.There's a tantalising parallel with Russia's bombardment of Ukraine. 4 years of that now and Ukraine hasn't capitulated, and is still eagerly lobbing stuff back to considerable effect. Iran, like Ukraine, now (or soon) no longer has a naval surface fleet but, again like Ukraine, finds denying its coastal waters to anyone doesn't actually need warships.
Sure, the US plus Israel is a lot better equipped than Russia, but they're trying to force Iran's capitulation without putting boots on the ground (and consequently bodies in bags) which is a pretty severe handicap.
I'm genuinely worried the Trump regime have no idea how big a can of worms they just blew the lid off, and are not likely willing to do what they'll need to do to un-soup this particular fish.
Trump really doesn’t care about “losers”…
Sure, the US plus Israel is a lot better equipped than Russia, but they're trying to force Iran's capitulation without putting boots on the ground (and consequently bodies in bags) which is a pretty severe handicap.
His instructions don't matter. It'd be up to Vance.President Trump said earlier that he's "left instructions" if Iran assassinates him
"That would be a terrible thing for them to do, not because of me. If they did that, they would be obliterated. That would be the end. I've left instructions."
"There wouldn't be anything left."