Trump's Second Term

Dr.Sid said:
Too complicated .. so far it's been few %. It might make sense if he drops some companies to 50%, then buys, then lets them get back. Compared to Trump coin which was traded in tens of billions, it's just not worth it.
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He's playing penny stocks, that's why he wanted to get rid of the penny. So all you could buy with it was stocks he's trading. It's transdimensional chess, crossing between realities. Well OK, unrealities, dimensionally transidental, bigger on the inside than the outside (much like his edification). That's why he's against trans people, thinks they'll shut down his portals to his transdimensional unrealities.
 
The Man said:
He's playing penny stocks, that's why he wanted to get rid of the penny. So all you could buy with it was stocks he's trading. It's transdimensional chess, crossing between realities. Well OK, unrealities, dimensionally transidental, bigger on the inside than the outside (much like his edification). That's why he's against trans people, thinks they'll shut down his portals to his transdimensional unrealities.
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I can't believe I didn't think of this! BRILLIANT!
 
Andy_Ross said:
Donald's message to Gaza "RELEASE THE HOSTAGES NOW, OR THERE WILL BE HELL TO PAY LATER!
He's sending Israel everything it needs to finish the job.
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
"Shalom Hamas" means Hello and Goodbye You can choose. Release all of the Hostages now, not later, and immediately return all of the dead bodies of the people you murdered, or it is OVER for you. Only sick and twisted people keep bodies, and you are sick and twisted! I am sending Israel everything it needs to finish the job, not a single Hamas member will be safe if you don't do as I say. I have just met with your former Hostages whose lives you have destroyed. This is your last warning! For the leadership, now is the time to leave Gaza, while you still have a chance. Also, to the People of Gaza: A beautiful Future awaits, but not if you hold Hostages. If you do, you are DEAD! Make a SMART decision. RELEASE THE HOSTAGES NOW, OR THERE WILL BE HELL TO PAY LATER!
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This to an organisation that has had tens of thousands killed by Israeli, and by extension American, weapons. :cautious:

Even fifth-grade mafia actors don't threaten like this. This is stupid, petulant, childish, amateur dramatics. It's the complete opposite of "being presidential". He really is so far out of his depth that there is no daylight.

If Hamas were to take him even the slightest bit seriously, which I'm fairly sure they won't, they could maybe start delivering all the bodies of their own dead to Israel. Just bring them all in. Tens of thousands of them. Pile them up in long rows. Even body parts. And have international media crews present. Say nothing. Just ensure that Trump sees it and knows what he asked for.
 
Wait, what?!? "People of Gaza"?!? Didn't he want to relocate them so he could build his trump 'Gaza Land'. Well, genocide and gentrification, it's at least alliterative racisms. The quite parts out loud have become more literate while still illegitimate.
 
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Wait, what?!? "People of Gaza"?!? Didn't he want to relocate them so he could build his trump 'Gaza Land'. Well, genocide and gentrification, it's at least alliterative racisms. The quite parts out loud have become more literate while still illegitimate.
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Don't be silly! He needs them to be unpaid laborers to build his casinos on their land before he has them forcibly relocated.
 
The Heritage Foundation type Conservatives have realized that trying to understand how anything works is a trap, because it will make you realize that is is incredibly hard to do better than what is already being done, and any change will lead to a great hardship to a lot of people.

Hence any action must be taken without considering the consequences, or you might not do them.
The way to find out if you broke the system is when your big donors start squealing in pain - then you can pull the knife out of that wound and stab it somewhere else instead.

You know, just like a surgeon works.
 
Andy_Ross said:
CNN Breaking News saying "Trump administration plans to cut more than 70,000 jobs at the Department of Veterans Affairs, according to an internal memo obtained by CNN"
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Firing people is not the way to reduce federal spending. Estimates vary, but federal wages account for "about $350 billion on federal employees every year, out of a $6.5 trillion budget." DOGE has a goal of saving between 1 and 2 trillion dollars a year. If every single US government employee was fired today, that would get them only 35% of the way to a $1 trillion goal and a mere 17% of the way to a $2 trillion goal.

The real reason for firing people is to make the government so dysfunctional it simply cannot operate. That's been the Project 2025 (and earlier projects) dreams for years. It will make a few people very rich by having private enterprise pick up the slack, and potentially impoverish millions.
 
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Aridas said:
Blue Mountain said:
Is doing the right thing for the wrong reason a positive nor a negative?
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That's obviously a grey area, though it's also pretty normal in practice. Personally, I'd evaluate it in line with the net effect and the nature of the two. In this case, it's quite firmly in the negative. The harm is likely to greatly surpass the potential benefits and the brazen dishonesty has consequences itself.
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Thanks for your input. My understanding of your comment is Trump's use of inflammatory language in section 1 of the executive order outweighs the positive message of honouring this murdered girl. I've added this to my list with a score of -1.
 
dudalb said:
Yo had another reversal with GSA pulling the list of buildings to be disposed of they posted yesterday.
They listed every federal building in Sacramento, which has the state headquaters for quite a few federal agencies, including some consisered core by the Trump Aminisitration. Pure idiocy.
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They need the assets to still be owned by the agencies, so that when they privatise them there are still assets to be stripped.
 
I think it is worth considering which of the two (President of USA or President of Russia) has threatened to annex a neighbouring country which is a NATO member, and also to annex part of another NATO country. Which is the greatest threat to NATO. Exactly which threat is European rearmament really needing to address?

Perhaps the propaganda from the USSR that soviet troops in Eastern Europe were to protect against a warmongering neo-colonialist US was prescient?
 
Thanks to a long, rambling and factually challenged speech to Congress on March 4, as of the close of the day on March 5 my positive/negative score on the Trump administration stands at -240.

5 March 2025
-1: Trump address to Congress on March 4: claims without evidence DOGE has saved $105 billion [65]
-1: Speech to Congress: Claimed $8 million for "transgender mice" (it's only $500,000 for transgenic mice)
-1: Speech to Congress: Claimed tariffs will bring in "trillions and trillions of dollars"
-1: Speech to Congress: Claimed without evidence small-business optimism saw a 41-point jump.
-1: Speech to Congress: Lied about the Biden administrations letting egg prices get out of control
-1: Speech to Congress: Claimed without evidence the Paris Accord cost the US "trillions of dollars"
-1: Speech to Congress: Claimed countries are sending people from "insane asylums" (that's not what an asylum seeker is!)
-1: Speech to Congress: Claimed that Biden used his office to "viciously" prosecute him
-1: Speech to Congress: Falsely claimed 21 million undocumented immigrants came into the US during Biden’s tenure (it's 2.2 million)
-1: Speech to Congress: Falsely claimed Biden "didn't enforce" $50 billion of agricultural sales to China from his first term
-1: Speech to Congress: Claimed not long ago only one in 10,000 or 100,000 children had autism (it was 1 in 150 in year 2000)
-1: Speech to Congress: Claimed 4.7 million centenarians are receiving social security benefits (no; most of then are now dead)
-1: Speech to Congress: Falsely claimed US has spent $350 billion to support Ukraine while Europe has provided just $100 billion
-1: Speech to Congress: Falsely claimed 38,000 Americans died during the building of the Panama Canal (they were non-Americans)
-1: Speech to Congress: Insulted the people of Lesotho as "a country nobody's heard of" [66]
-1: Speech to Congress: Falsely claimed the US has given Lesotho $8 million to promote LGBTQI+ (Lesotho denies receiving it)
-1: Speech to Congress: Said he would be "reclaiming the Panama Canal", "because it was built by Americans for Americans"
-1: Speech to Congress: On Greenland: "We need it really for international world security. And I think we're going to get it."
-1: The CIA stops sharing intelligence with Ukraine, hampering their war effort
-1: Trump pauses tariffs on automobiles and parts for 1 month (-1 due to bumbling inconsistency)
-1: Headline: Trump administration plans to cut more than 70,000 jobs at the Department of Veterans Affairs (CNN)
-1: Executive Order: Honoring Jocelyn Nungaray (-1 for playing politics with this tragedy)

References:

65. Trump's address to Congress: see Fact-checking Trump’s address to Congress (CNN) for details
66. Trump's address to Congress: See Panama, Greenland lash out at Trump's latest push to 'reclaim' them, 'one way or another' (CBC)
 
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JayUtah said:
Do we think he might be manipulating the stock market? He seems to be able to make the various indexes go up and down at will by announcing tariffs and then rescinding them.
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Of course he is, or the people that work him are doing it.
 
Blue Mountain said:
Firing people is not the way to reduce federal spending. Estimates vary, but federal wages account for "about $350 billion on federal employees every year, out of a $6.5 trillion budget." DOGE has a goal of saving between 1 and 2 trillion dollars a year. If every single US government employee was fired today, that would get them only 35% of the way to a $1 trillion goal and a mere 17% of the way to a $2 trillion goal.

The real reason for firing people is to make the government so dysfunctional it simply cannot operate. That's been the Project 2025 (and earlier projects) dreams for years. It will make a few people very rich by having private enterprise pick up the slack, and potentially impoverish millions.
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As a result, it will not be a cost-saving at all. Private enterprise versions of government services always, without exception, cost a LOT more. So DOGE won't save $2 trillion, or $1 trillion, or even one red (retired) cent. The same services will cost trillions MORE than they do now, with fewer people working them.

What's more, private enterprise is all about profits. So services like postal, education, air services, transport, etc. will cost exponentially more. And health will get even more expensive than it is now. So much so that all but billionaire Americans will be able to afford it. The rest of you peons can die for all they care.
 
Andy_Ross said:
Listing the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City as one of those to be disposed of hasn't gone down well.

Do we think Elon and his DOGE tec bros even know it's significance?
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I think the better questions, at this point, would be "Would they care, whether or not they knew?" and "What are the chances that they'd do this intentionally, perhaps as part of a larger effort to overload the US' ability to deal with outrageous crap?"
 
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