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Trump's Second Term

Trump explains that he is the one responsible for the DHS shutdown.

Also mutilization an men in womens sports are bad
Donald J. Trump
@realDonald Trump
I don't think we should make any deal with the Crazy, Country Destroying, Radical Left Democrats unless, and until, they Vote with Republicans to pass "THE SAVE AMERICA ACT."

It is far more important than anything else we are doing in the Senate, and that includes giving these same terrible people, the Dems (who are to blame for this mess!), a Five Billion Dollar cut in ICE funding, a deal which, even when disguised as something else, is unacceptable to me and the American people - UNLESS it includes their approval of Voter I.D., (with picture!), Citizenship to Vote, No Mail-In Voting (with exceptions), All Paper Ballots, No Men In Women's Sports, and No Transgender MUTILIZATION of our precious children. Put it all together, and also, let Leader Thune clearly identify those few "Republicans" that are Voting against AMERICA. They will never be elected again! In other words, lump everything together as one, and VOTE!!! Kill the Filibuster, and stay in D.C. for Easter, if necessary. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! President DJT
 
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Not quite right about Starmer being finished, although a lot of commentators are saying that in the UK. In the latest polls he still leads over all other parties as the best person to be PM, at the moment.

What Jimbob said. "Starmer is finished" has a very specific meaning in the context of the UK politics thread.
 
There are a number of understandable criticisms that can be made. "Lack of protests" does not seem to be one of them.

‘Very historic time’: US protests have jumped since Trump’s first term
Data shows 133% increase from 2017 to 2025 as anti-ICE and No Kings protests push mobilization against White House

The relative lack of coverage for protests that may have fooled you, on the other hand...

There are basically two kinds of protests going on in the US. Lots of little ones with half a dozen people standing somewhere in their local town with some signs.

Then there are larger ones like no kings that happen every 2-3 months for a couple hours on a Saturday and get massive turnout.

I'm all for protesting and there is good to doing this but the problem is that neither of these really causes any disruption to the fascist agenda. Everyone goes home after a couple hours and the regime continues on because to them it has about as much effect as a music concert people went to on the weekend.
 
There are basically two kinds of protests going on in the US. Lots of little ones with half a dozen people standing somewhere in their local town with some signs.

Then there are larger ones like no kings that happen every 2-3 months for a couple hours on a Saturday and get massive turnout.

I'm all for protesting and there is good to doing this but the problem is that neither of these really causes any disruption to the fascist agenda. Everyone goes home after a couple hours and the regime continues on because to them it has about as much effect as a music concert people went to on the weekend.
On the one hand, yes it does not disrupt the approach of fascism.

On the other hand it does show people that said approach is not popular and people are willing to protest it.

And finally, it totally freaks out the fascist supporters who are convinced that everyone loves the fascist agenda. Remember the summer No Kings had loads right-wingers desperately trying to discredit the whole event. Claiming things like "they are using old footage" (a rumor started by right-wing AI Grok) or "Its just old people" or "Don't they have jobs?!!?!" (it was Saturday). Then later they have been lamenting that they cannot seem to organize protests (mostly because they have no reason to protest) and bemoaning their lack of protests. Of course they also ignore that their protests have been disasters (Unite the Right and Jan 6th). Of course we also cannot forget those right-wing influencers who think showing at the protest wearing their red cap is some kind of huge statement and brag about how its going to upset everyone but end up being ignored. The spin on those gets pretty pathetic.
 
There are basically two kinds of protests going on in the US. Lots of little ones with half a dozen people standing somewhere in their local town with some signs.

Then there are larger ones like no kings that happen every 2-3 months for a couple hours on a Saturday and get massive turnout.

I'm all for protesting and there is good to doing this but the problem is that neither of these really causes any disruption to the fascist agenda. Everyone goes home after a couple hours and the regime continues on because to them it has about as much effect as a music concert people went to on the weekend.
No one thing is going to stop a fascist agenda. Obviously, Trump and his sycophants will spin these stories any way they want. And yes, a lot of people just show up, have a good time, post on social media, and then just wait for the next party.

But, a lot of people are using these are one step in a larger, prolonged campaign. It also works as a good way to show folks who may feel isolated and scared that they aren't alone. It can help boost the energy and remind folks that this stuff isn't normal.
 
That's the important thing I suppose

Comer on airports: "I'm glad the president has put ICE in there for a multitude of reasons. It'll drive the Democrats crazy"
I don't think this is going to work out as well for Stubby McBonespurs as Comer thinks.

ICE is already quite unpopular with a large number of people. So they want to take a hated group and make it MORE visible?

If the ICE gestapo wears masks as the airports like they do when they are shooting american citizens in the back, it will remind people "hey, there is a problem with these guys". If they don't wear masks, it makes it easier to dox them.

And what happens when they do the regular ICE thing and become abusive and trigger happy in the middle of an airport, filled largely with WHITE travelers?
 
There are a number of understandable criticisms that can be made. "Lack of protests" does not seem to be one of them.
There has been a lack of coverage, and what coverage there has been has centred on the activities of ICE agents.
I guess the question is, WHY has there been a lack of coverage.

Some people might think "the media is hiding the protests in order to avoid angering Trump", but they do occasionally report on other stories that Trump might not like.

Could be that there are so many other stories that garner attention that what is essentially a "peaceful protest" gets overlooked. Why report on a protest involving thousands of people if there were no "problems" at the protest, and there are stories about Iran, ICE abuses and Epstein to cover? (Even a "left wing" media source might see Iran/Epstein as more important.)
 
I guess the question is, WHY has there been a lack of coverage.

Some people might think "the media is hiding the protests in order to avoid angering Trump", but they do occasionally report on other stories that Trump might not like.

Could be that there are so many other stories that garner attention that what is essentially a "peaceful protest" gets overlooked. Why report on a protest involving thousands of people if there were no "problems" at the protest, and there are stories about Iran, ICE abuses and Epstein to cover? (Even a "left wing" media source might see Iran/Epstein as more important.)
I guess I've grown too cynical to believe that. The same media has been pretending Dump's dementia doesn't exist while Biden's (less severe) health problems were front page coverage every day for months. Elonia's textbook Nazi salute was 'a gesture that kinda resembled a Nazi salute', and they farmed clicks by turning it into a debate between far-right gaslighters and, well, people with eyes and working brains.
 

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