dudalb
Penultimate Amazing
God, this is becoming like Babylon Five for real....
Trump's Second Term
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This afternoon they started sending out a "deferred resignation" offer. Send in notice (by the end of next week) that you'll resign and they'll pay you through the end of the fiscal year. Maybe you'll be on admin leave, maybe they'll make you work to implement the transition - or maybe not! It's the usual crap of unclear writing written by people who have no understanding of how the government works. It's supposed to be kind of like a buyout, but crafted by idiots who don't have any budget to offer real buyouts.
bsky.app
Sounds like this is going out to most of the civil service. They may exempt Department of Defense and maybe the Veteran's Administration, along with border security.
As of about a half hour ago I have not received it yet and I'm logged off for the night and won't see it until morning. I've got about a decade left before retirement and have no intention of taking any "deferred resignation" nor early retirement nor buyout. They'll have to RIF me if they want me gone.
(Edit: "A Fork in the Road" appears to be a deliberate reference to a similar email Musk sent out to Twitter staff when he first took over.)
Ken Klippenstein (@kenklippenstein.bsky.social)
Trump admin memo sent to federal officials offering “Fork in the Road” (actual words used) decision between deferred resignation or remaining on despite possibility of termination later. Document provided to me by U.S. official
bsky.app
Sounds like this is going out to most of the civil service. They may exempt Department of Defense and maybe the Veteran's Administration, along with border security.
As of about a half hour ago I have not received it yet and I'm logged off for the night and won't see it until morning. I've got about a decade left before retirement and have no intention of taking any "deferred resignation" nor early retirement nor buyout. They'll have to RIF me if they want me gone.
(Edit: "A Fork in the Road" appears to be a deliberate reference to a similar email Musk sent out to Twitter staff when he first took over.)
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dudalb
Penultimate Amazing
I really suspect in the end Trump's attempts to shrink the govenrment will work about as well as most attempts have. Not very well.
alfaniner
Penultimate Amazing
I have no doubt that sometime in the near future (and after The POSOTUS is out) someone with come out with a book title like "(time period) in Turmoil". I hope it's only Two Weeks in Turmoil. We may even get to a Cuban Missile Crisis-type standoff, but internally. No, I do not feel one iota of positivity with this current Administration.
TragicMonkey
Poisoned Waffles
Park Service got the letter. They were already struggling with understaffing. I guess America shall be made greater if it doesn't have any national parks running.This afternoon they started sending out a "deferred resignation" offer. Send in notice (by the end of next week) that you'll resign and they'll pay you through the end of the fiscal year. Maybe you'll be on admin leave, maybe they'll make you work to implement the transition - or maybe not! It's the usual crap of unclear writing written by people who have no understanding of how the government works. It's supposed to be kind of like a buyout, but crafted by idiots who don't have any budget to offer real buyouts.
Ken Klippenstein (@kenklippenstein.bsky.social)
Trump admin memo sent to federal officials offering “Fork in the Road” (actual words used) decision between deferred resignation or remaining on despite possibility of termination later. Document provided to me by U.S. official
Sounds like this is going out to most of the civil service.
JayUtah
Penultimate Amazing
My state has five national parks whose visitation is a major part of our tourism industry. Our legislature today went into full, "Ah, the leopards! My face!" mode.
Norman Alexander
Penultimate Amazing
Very likely it was authored out of the DOGE office. It seems to come from the mistaken expectation that government employees work under exactly the same laws and regulations as non-government at-will workers. My understanding is that most US public service employees have agreed (negotiated?) awards that legally regulate employment, and pay and conditions. In most cases, they simply cannot be "let go" arbitrarily without good reason. "DOGE says" is probably not a good reason.This afternoon they started sending out a "deferred resignation" offer. Send in notice (by the end of next week) that you'll resign and they'll pay you through the end of the fiscal year. Maybe you'll be on admin leave, maybe they'll make you work to implement the transition - or maybe not! It's the usual crap of unclear writing written by people who have no understanding of how the government works. It's supposed to be kind of like a buyout, but crafted by idiots who don't have any budget to offer real buyouts.
Ken Klippenstein (@kenklippenstein.bsky.social)
Trump admin memo sent to federal officials offering “Fork in the Road” (actual words used) decision between deferred resignation or remaining on despite possibility of termination later. Document provided to me by U.S. official
Sounds like this is going out to most of the civil service. They may exempt Department of Defense and maybe the Veteran's Administration, along with border security.
As of about a half hour ago I have not received it yet and I'm logged off for the night and won't see it until morning. I've got about a decade left before retirement and have no intention of taking any "deferred resignation" nor early retirement nor buyout. They'll have to RIF me if they want me gone.
(Edit: "A Fork in the Road" appears to be a deliberate reference to a similar email Musk sent out to Twitter staff when he first took over.)
Norman Alexander
Penultimate Amazing
Trump does indeed want your national parks gone. He wants to "drill, baby, drill" right there.
arthwollipot
Observer of Phenomena, Pronouns: he/him
He can't see how they profit him.
dudalb
Penultimate Amazing
Most National Parks depend heavily on seasonal hires. The job freeze has hit them hard.
dudalb
Penultimate Amazing
Seems to have come out of OMB, Office Management Budget.
TragicMonkey
Poisoned Waffles
According to someone posting on a federal employees' Reddit who claims to work for OPM, people walked in with a server, plugged it into the wall, and sent out all those emails that way. They weren't OPM staff. And, it is also claimed, the metadata of the PDF still shows the names of Project 2025 authors. If true it's yet another outside-the-legal-channels overreach by the president through his personal cronies.
Power resides wherever people think it does and are willing to obey it. So I expect this will be yet one more thing Trump gets away with, and it will add yet more momentum to his usurpation of all government power. Checks and balances are going away and I don't think we'll get them back soon.
Norman Alexander
Penultimate Amazing
Muskrat is fully on board with Project 2025. It is "relevant to his interests".
If the document sent is unofficial and not OPM, there should grounds for legally rescinding it, plus prosecution for those impersonating OPM staff.
I also know that if anyone tried to plug a "foreign" server into our state government Health network, they would have had security land on them from a great height, the server confiscated (our group got to investigate rogue equipment), and they would all now be in a police cell and facing very stiff charges. Regardless of who they worked for.
angrysoba
Philosophile
Yeah, it is called A fork in the road.
Musk is Tweeting about it here.
Back in 2022:
Basically it is exactly the same playbook as Musk did with Twitter. Give everyone working there a chance to resign with a number of months of pay, or possibly get sacked anyway.
Did people who chose to resign actually get the money they were promised?
Either way, we are talking here about Donald Trump as well as Musk, so it's a doubly invidious choice. Possibly get fired anyway, or volunteer to be paid out by someone notorious for not paying.
TragicMonkey
Poisoned Waffles
LOL, "should"? That word died in politics a couple of months ago.
Norman Alexander
Penultimate Amazing
The US government is not Twitter or Trump Corp. As soon as people realise that and push back, their game is up. If the government employees just ignore these demands and keep turning up to work, they can't be sacked. What is Trump going to do? Order them away at gunpoint? Take same side as the librul cuck Democrat Soros police on Jan 6th? That will look great on TV for MAGA.
Norman Alexander
Penultimate Amazing
I know. *SIGH*
If they are so intent on breaking the law, play their game. Is that server still in place? Use it to send out Trump's and Vance's immediate resignation letters.
angrysoba
Philosophile
I agree. They should indeed do that.
The next step for Trump is to declare that they are fired anyway, which is almost certainly going to be illegal. Then the next step is that the SCOTUS either gives Trump a clean bill of health, or they rule that he has broken the law. Then JD Vance's statement comes into play when he said he would do as Andrew Jackson was purported to have said which was the Court has made its decision, now it has to enforce it. So... constitutional crisis emerges... martial law, etc... the next step belongs in a separate thread.
angrysoba
Philosophile
dudalb
Penultimate Amazing
I think shutting down the eintire US Government by firing all the employees is going to happen.
Hell, apparently OPM does not have the authority to offer buy outs..that has to be done by the indivuall agency.
You criticise me for being over the top, but you sound pretty apocalopyic.
Do you really think Trump can pull off half of what he wants to do?
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