Cont: Trump's Coup - Part 3

[shemp]

I went through all 45 pages of this. Every person who signed these or can be proven to have been involved in any way should be thrown in prison for life.

 

[Upchurch]

Assuming this is all true, this is at least straight-up election fraud, right?

 

[slyjoe]

Assuming this is all true, this is at least straight-up election fraud, right?

I lean to seditious conspiracy. I'm not sure election fraud is actually a statute.

 

[Stacyhs]

I lean to seditious conspiracy. I'm not sure election fraud is actually a statute.

Why not both?

 

[carlitos]

Is that actually correct? The article says "from" not "by". It says the documents were assembled by groups of Trump supporters, not by the states themselves.

That's fair, but a lot of the signatories were officials in some capacity.

 

[BobTheCoward]

We have Trump strong-arming the Georgia Secretary of the State to "find" 11,780 votes. We have right wing terrorist storming the Capitol in a violent insurrection. We have pro-Trump groups forging elector documents.

Where in any of that are these people "mistaken about the rules"?

Because Trump,as a party to a hearing between lawyers with Georgia in his role as a candidate, can make dumb requests.

 

[BobTheCoward]

It's a coup because the reasons to not certify and Jan 6 and send it back to the states were ginned up, made up, fabricated, invented, created, imagined, . . . .

I just broke by thesaurus.

Well, prophets make up stuff all the time, but they believe them honestly (not in all cases).

 

[RecoveringYuppy]

That's fair, but a lot of the signatories were officials in some capacity.

Really? Do you know of an example? BTW What put this back in the news?

ETA: I guess I should rephrase that to: What brought this to your attention. Your link is from last March which is a couple months after these activities were first detected.

 

[carlitos]

Really? Do you know of an example? BTW What put this back in the news?

ETA: I guess I should rephrase that to: What brought this to your attention. Your link is from last March which is a couple months after these activities were first detected.

I saw a bunch of online chatter about it; I guess Rachel Maddow showed the fake certificates from 5 states on screen last night. Also, I think some info came to the J6 committee recently about how Trump knew a few weeks before the certification date that these false certificates had been sent.

 

[johnny karate]

Because Trump,as a party to a hearing between lawyers with Georgia in his role as a candidate, can make dumb requests.

You're very generous with the "I didn't know I couldn't do that" defense. Probably to the point that anything further you have to say on the issue should not be taken seriously.

 

[Paul2]

Well, prophets make up stuff all the time, but they believe them honestly (not in all cases).

Therefore. . . . What?

 

[Stacyhs]

Therefore. . . . What?

You're a glutton for punishment, aren't ya?

 

[Paul2]

You're a glutton for punishment, aren't ya?

You have no idea who you’re dealing with. I mean me, not Bob.

 

[carlitos]

That's fair, but a lot of the signatories were officials in some capacity.

Really? Do you know of an example?

Here is one.

Arizona Republican who signed phony 'certification' saying Trump won flees from reporter's questioning

On Tuesday, Arizona state Rep. Jake Hoffman, one of the Republicans who signed a fake election "certification" alleging that he was a Republican elector appointed for former President Donald Trump's nonexistent victory in Arizona, turned away from a reporter with 12 News trying to ask him about his role in the forgery.

The reporter caught up with Hoffman and demanded he explain how he had authority as an elector, he said, "in unprecedented times, unprecedented action does occur."

 

[BobTheCoward]

You're very generous with the "I didn't know I couldn't do that" defense. Probably to the point that anything further you have to say on the issue should not be taken seriously.

In his role at the time, he could make the claim he did.

 

[RecoveringYuppy]

Here is one.

Oh, thanks. I thought you meant election officials. Got it.

 

[carlitos]

I haven’t gone through all of them, but I would imagine some of these state reps and state senators who essentially forged election certificates could be in a little trouble. A girl can dream anyway.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

In his role at the time, he could make the claim he did.

He absolutely COULD NOT legally make the request he made, which was "to find" just enough votes to make him the winner.
Not to do a recount, not to annull the election, but to change the result until it gives him a majority.
This was an ask to Raffensburger to certify a result both Raffensburger AND Trump knew were incorrect.

This was a clear case of coercion to commit election fraud, and it needs to get litigated in Court.

 

[Lurch]

You have no idea who you’re dealing with. I mean me, not Bob.

What happened to Paul1?

Your optimism is admirable. BTC is an android lacking an emotion chip. And its logic routines have got corrupted to be dominated by the sub-routines, now melded, Devil's Advocate and Obstreporous Contrarian.

 

[slyjoe]

What happened to Paul1?

Your optimism is admirable. BTC is an android lacking an emotion chip. And its logic routines have got corrupted to be dominated by the sub-routines, now melded, Devil's Advocate and Obstreporous Contrarian.

You could have just said Libertarian