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Cont: Trump's Coup - Part 3

varwoche said:
And when you consider that Republicans rejected non-partisan and bi-partisan investigations, and also consider Cheney's prominent role, your objections amount to partisan whining.
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Except, I'm not whining about it. I am merely pointing it out. The whining is coming from those who insist on denying it is a highly partisan committee, or people blaming it on the GOP. I am one person, maintaining a position despite constantly being challenged by numerous others.

Half of them are squealing, "it is the fault of the GOP", half of them are screeching, "it is not partisan!". It's funny to watch.

I mean, I am totally endorsing Dems using this opportunity to their advantage. Is that really "whining"?
 
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Repubs sent fake documents to Congress purporting to represent electors from five states, intending to throw election into House.
On Dec. 14, 2020, the day of the electoral college vote, Republican electors convened in the capitals of five states that Joe Biden had won. They declared themselves “duly elected and qualified” and sent signed certificates to Washington purporting to affirm Donald Trump as the actual victor.

At the time, the gatherings in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada and Wisconsin — all states that had officially approved Biden electors — were widely derided as political stunts intended to bolster Trump’s baseless allegations of fraud.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/inve...7e3698-7587-11ec-8b0a-bcfab800c430_story.html
 
Bob001 said:
Repubs sent fake documents to Congress purporting to represent electors from five states, intending to throw election into House.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/inve...7e3698-7587-11ec-8b0a-bcfab800c430_story.html
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They could be facing federal criminal charges for this stunt, too.

Michigan Republicans could face federal charges for signing fake electoral college certificates, state attorney general says
Nearly identical fake electoral college certificates from several swing states appear to be evidence of a coordinated plot among state Republican parties, according to Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel


A group of Michigan Republicans who signed fake documents purporting to award the state’s electoral votes to Donald Trump could be facing federal criminal charges, Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said Thursday.

Speaking on MSNBC’s The Rachel Maddow Show, Ms Nessel said her office had been “evaluating” charges for signers of the ersatz vote certificates “for nearly a year”.

"I will say that under state law, I think clearly you have forgery of a public record, which is a 14-year offense, and election law forgery, which is a five-year offense,” she said.
The fake document was signed by 16 people, many of whom would have been called upon to give their state’s electoral votes to Mr Trump had he won the popular vote in Michigan on 3 November 2020.
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...an-trump-fake-electoral-college-b1993299.html
 
Warp12 said:
Except, I'm not whining about it. I am merely pointing it out. The whining is coming from those who insist on denying it is a highly partisan committee, or people blaming it on the GOP. I am one person, maintaining a position despite constantly being challenged by numerous others.

Half of them are squealing, "it is the fault of the GOP", half of them are screeching, "it is not partisan!". It's funny to watch.

I mean, I am totally endorsing Dems using this opportunity to their advantage. Is that really "whining"?
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Why shouldn't we blame it on the Russian useful idiot GOP?
 
Warp12 said:
Except, I'm not whining about it. I am merely pointing it out. The whining is coming from those who insist on denying it is a highly partisan committee, or people blaming it on the GOP.
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The pursuit of facts is not partisan. If the facts make the Repubs look bad, that's where the chips fall.
 
Bob001 said:
The pursuit of facts is not partisan. If the facts make the Repubs look bad, that's where the chips fall.
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I don't think there's much "if" about it. It's why they fight it so much. When there's nothing to hide, you don't try to hide it.
 
Stacyhs said:
I don't think there's much "if" about it. It's why they fight it so much. When there's nothing to hide, you don't try to hide it.
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Didn't Republicans say Trump would Ruin the Republican party before he won the Primary vote?
There is no one here to blame but Republicans.
 
Warp12 said:
Except, I'm not whining about it. I am merely pointing it out. The whining is coming from those who insist on denying it is a highly partisan committee, or people blaming it on the GOP. I am one person, maintaining a position despite constantly being challenged by numerous others.

Half of them are squealing, "it is the fault of the GOP", half of them are screeching, "it is not partisan!". It's funny to watch.

I mean, I am totally endorsing Dems using this opportunity to their advantage. Is that really "whining"?
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I suppose not, but you send conflicting messages. Pardon me.
 
The Wall Street Journal just called the defeat of the filibuster changes a "bipartisan vote". It was 50 Republicans and 2 Democrats. So maybe we should stop sweating "bipartisan" so much when it comes to the 7-2 committee.
 
slyjoe said:
The Wall Street Journal just called the defeat of the filibuster changes a "bipartisan vote". It was 50 Republicans and 2 Democrats. So maybe we should stop sweating "bipartisan" so much when it comes to the 7-2 committee.
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Or stop sweating that rag, lol.
 
Stacyhs said:
I don't think there's much "if" about it. It's why they fight it so much. When there's nothing to hide, you don't try to hide it.
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The Big question of course is how fast Lindsay Graham can Flip Flop away from Trump and back to McConnell after Trump is indicted and convicted?
Lindsey made a bad miscalculation, but that might be a subject for another Thread!
 
Crazy Chainsaw said:
The Big question of course is how fast Lindsay Graham can Flip Flop away from Trump and back to McConnell after Trump is indicted and convicted?
Lindsey made a bad miscalculation, but that might be a subject for another Thread!
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I predict 2 nanoseconds. Depending on the breaks.
 
Stacyhs said:
Rhodes and Hancock sound like a couple of idiots. I did have to laugh though at how put out they are about Trump not doing what they thought he would/should and just looking out for himself and his family. What the hell else did they expect from someone who has shown that's all he cares about for years? To have their backs? Loyalty? :sdl:
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The fantasy revealed in those tapes is mind boggling.
 
I wonder if Giuliani and some of Trump's campaign staff will also be charged with seditious conspiracy. Allegedly, RG et al were behind the fake elector certificates sent to the National Archives. If true, I'd bet Trump knew all about it and approved it:

Trump campaign officials, led by Rudy Giuliani, oversaw fake electors plot in 7 states

Trump campaign officials, led by Rudy Giuliani, oversaw efforts in December 2020 to put forward illegitimate electors from seven states that Trump lost, according to three sources with direct knowledge of the scheme.

The sources said members of former President Donald Trump's campaign team were far more involved than previously known in the plan, a core tenet of the broader plot to overturn President Joe Biden's victory when Congress counted the electoral votes on January 6.
Giuliani and his allies coordinated the nuts-and-bolts of the process on a state-by-state level, the sources told CNN. One source said there were multiple planning calls between Trump campaign officials and GOP state operatives, and that Giuliani participated in at least one call. The source also said the Trump campaign lined up supporters to fill elector slots, secured meeting rooms in statehouses for the fake electors to meet on December 14, 2020, and circulated drafts of fake certificates that were ultimately sent to the National Archives.

Trump and some of his top advisers publicly encouraged the "alternate electors" scheme in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Arizona, Wisconsin, Nevada and New Mexico. But behind the scenes, Giuliani and Trump campaign officials actively choreographed the process, the sources said.

One fake elector from Michigan boasted at a recent event hosted by a local Republican organization that the Trump campaign directed the entire operation.
"We fought to seat the electors. The Trump campaign asked us to do that," Meshawn Maddock, co-chair of the Michigan Republican Party, said at a public event last week that was organized by the conservative group Stand Up Michigan, according to a recording obtained by CNN.
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