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Cont: Trump’s Coup - Part 2

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Skeptic Ginger said:
Yeah right, and you can't name a single one. :rolleyes:
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He's not strictly wrong.

https://ballotpedia.org/How_do_stat...Signature_requirements_and_signature_matching

But yet again, an over-brief summary doesn't tell the story.

I'm in one of the "no signature matching" states. I looked through our statutes and there are random sample groups checked in each ward and precinct. The verification rate must pass a threshold and if not, a full audit is required.

And besides, since signature matching is only one of many forms of protection, "are elections safe from fraud" hardly revolves on this single point, anyways.

ETA: signature matching can hardly address the issue of smart thermostats manufactured in China secretly connecting to Dominion voting machines, for example.

/poe
 
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Stacyhs said:
I had my Oregon mail-in ballot not counted initially in an election but I was notified of a 'signature mismatch'. I was given the opportunity to verify that I had, indeed, signed the ballot and it was then counted. Easy peasy.

It's interesting to note that Warp12 refuses to identify which state he lives in that offers 'no recourse' of correcting a 'failed' signature.
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The problem is the assumption that Warp12 is posting in good faith. That assumption lacks any evidence to support it.
 
Ladewig said:
Well, there’s your problem.

The age of sarcasm is behind us. There is no such thing as blindingly obvious sarcasm because so many people spent the past 10 years firmly believing blindingly obvious sarcasm.
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Ever since Warp12 started posting here he's used a lot of sarcasm which I've immediately recognised but some other posters haven't, to his continual amusement. I've just realised that the posters who assume he's serious are American, and that this is the reason why.
 
Pixel42 said:
Ever since Warp12 started posting here he's used a lot of sarcasm which I've immediately recognised but some other posters haven't, to his continual amusement. I've just realised that the posters who assume he's serious are American, and that this is the reason why.
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I don't think Warp 12 is indulging in sarcasm. His MO seems to be a mix of the self-righteous virtue signaling that others like BobtheCoward, Ziggurat and ThePrestige indulge in. But while these intersperse their posts...Warp 12's posts are more or less exclusively knee-jerk contrarianism.
 
Pixel42 said:
Ever since Warp12 started posting here he's used a lot of sarcasm which I've immediately recognised but some other posters haven't, to his continual amusement. I've just realised that the posters who assume he's serious are American, and that this is the reason why.
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I know that Brits like to think Americans don't get irony but now it's also sarcasm we don't get? Sorry, but I'm a sarcasm fan. What he does isn't always sarcasm. This was just a downright fabrication.
 
Susheel said:
I don't think Warp 12 is indulging in sarcasm. His MO seems to be a mix of the self-righteous virtue signaling that others like BobtheCoward, Ziggurat and ThePrestige indulge in. But while these intersperse their posts...Warp 12's posts are more or less exclusively knee-jerk contrarianism.
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This.
 
Stacyhs said:
I know that Brits like to think Americans don't get irony but now it's also sarcasm we don't get? Sorry, but I'm a sarcasm fan. What he does isn't always sarcasm. This was just a downright fabrication.
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It seemed obvious sarcasm to me. He was making a silly joke about how easy this type of voter fraud is. He was (and probably still is) unaware of how difficult it actually is, how very rarely it is even attempted, and what the real threats to the democratic process in the US are. He wasn't claiming to have actually done this, showed his usual supercilious amusement when his joke was taken seriously, and followed if up with an even sillier one.
 
Pixel42 said:
It seemed obvious sarcasm to me. He was making a silly joke about how easy this type of voter fraud is. He was (and probably still is) unaware of how difficult it actually is, how very rarely it is even attempted, and what the real threats to the democratic process in the US are. He wasn't claiming to have actually done this, showed his usual supercilious amusement when his joke was taken seriously, and followed if up with an even sillier one.
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If he was being sarcastic then he would have said so when he saw he was being taken seriously. Instead, he doubled and tripled down. He was lying and got called out which is why he kept defending it. When that didn't work, he claimed he was being sarcastic.

If this had been the only case of him doing this, I might be more receptive to your view...but it's not. He pulls this kind of crap all the time. And he's pulling the wool over your eyes.
 
Stacyhs said:
If he was being sarcastic then he would have said so when he saw he was being taken seriously.
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Or laughed and had even more fun.

Remember he thinks he's the one that knows what's really going on, and we are the ones that are being taken in by misinformation. That's what would really be funny about him, if it wasn't so difficult to find it amusing given the state of his country. Not that mine is much better.

Instead, he doubled and tripled down. He was lying and got called out which is why he kept defending it. When that didn't work, he claimed he was being sarcastic.
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That's not how I read it. He was delighted to be misunderstood, because it gave him even more reason to laugh at us poor deluded libs.

If this had been the only case of him doing this, I might be more receptive to your view...but it's not. He pulls this kind of crap all the time.
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It's not the only case of him doing it, no. Sarcasm seems to be his default, and the failure to spot it a source of even more amusement. Again, remember he thinks he's the one with the superior knowledge and understanding.

And he's pulling the wool over your eyes.
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Or laughing superciliously at you.

Neither possibility reflects well on him.
 
Stacyhs said:
Right. And that's why you pointed that out immediately when I said I didn't believe you. Oh, wait....you didn't. Instead, you said this:



"tbh"? LOL! You were making it all up and you got caught and now you're just piling it on as if we're going to believe you. See? This is the problem when you get caught in a lie: nobody believes anything else you say. Well, except for Trump cultists who think he doesn't lie. :boggled:
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Right. Had anyone here believed him he would've kept going with the lie.

It wasn't sarcasm or humour. It was just trolling, as usual.
 
So, it's august!

Trump already back in office, right?
Die he arrest Killary and Joe or is he busy finishing the wall by himself, brick by brick?
 
Crazy Chainsaw said:
It cost many Familes their small family farms, Tobacco paid the property taxes and provided a dependable winter income.if you loose your home, you definitely remember why.
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Which is why the government should be encouraging smoking and specifically child smoking.
 
Given the discussion it spawned some people seem to think my original about was about the morality/legality of tobacco.

I don't give a **** about people smoking. I smoke.

I give a **** about people learning one very specific skill and not being able to (or pretend to not be able to) cope if their one very specific job goes away.
 
Crazy Chainsaw said:
Didn't say that now did I the government in incouraged people to raise tobacco for years, and many in the south depended on it.
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And, you also said it is still being grown in the same areas, just in more efficient fashions by larger operations. What does the government owe to the people to preserve the career that is no longer economically viable? Small farms are being rolled into large farms all over the country because that is how to best farm now.
 
Pixel42 said:
It seemed obvious sarcasm to me. He was making a silly joke about how easy this type of voter fraud is. He was (and probably still is) unaware of how difficult it actually is, how very rarely it is even attempted, and what the real threats to the democratic process in the US are. He wasn't claiming to have actually done this, showed his usual supercilious amusement when his joke was taken seriously, and followed if up with an even sillier one.
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I assumed he/she/it was impersonating William Barr, and we were supposed to laugh because, at this point in his career, Barr serves only as an object of ridicule, playing in the same league with Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell, and Mike Lindell. (Barr never quite achieved their current level of idiocy, but you can't tell yourself you're being edgy and clever if your clowning impersonates one of the league's leaders; that would be too obvious.)
 
JoeMorgue said:
Given the discussion it spawned some people seem to think my original about was about the morality/legality of tobacco.

I don't give a **** about people smoking. I smoke.

I give a **** about people learning one very specific skill and not being able to (or pretend to not be able to) cope if their one very specific job goes away.
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Tobacco could have been replaced by hemp, before Canada became a Giant in the Hemp industry but there was significant objection to that.
It isn't about the skill it's about the infrastructure investment needed to grow Tobacco, Barns and equipment and a lot more.
There was no crops to replace it.
 
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