My thoughts exactly.
Cont: Trump’s Coup - Part 2
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My thoughts exactly.
"It didn't go off. Can you believe it? It didn't go off!" was still good for 40 years in the klink - even for a pretty white woman.
The capitol rioters might have learned a thing a thing or two from Squeaky.
shemp
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It's not even the party of Dubya.
shemp
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So, the Devil may have to go down to Georgia?
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Lookin’ for a vote to steal?
Skeptic Ginger
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Did he really come close though? Seems to me every avenue he tried got blown up pretty quickly.
He came close enough to incite an insurrection to disrupt the EC certification, which is a lot closer than I would've expected. I agree that the chances for a successful coup rounded to zero, but things could've gotten a lot worse at the Capitol Building with just a bit of luck and timing.
It's a piss-poor moral system that only lets you react to evil when the evil has passed a point of no-return where you can no longer stop it or do anything about it.
The Republican Troll brigade is trying to gaslight us into thinking that any standard other than that is being "Dramatic" or "Hyperbolic."
The Republican Troll brigade is trying to gaslight us into thinking that any standard other than that is being "Dramatic" or "Hyperbolic."
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gnome
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He was doing fine, they were standing in line
Surely Biden would concede indeed.
Ok I've slipped back to election night, it just seemed to fit well
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A couple of thoughts:
- If there was partly inside coordination it elevates the level of threat that was involved.
- I contemplate whether the Voter Protection Program or similar efforts helped a lot through contacts with the people that count--the ones with the authority to make decisions, to certify votes, to establish secure and transparent procedures, and so forth. People that might be tempted to play along with false narratives for political expedience, but had been persuaded that enough people had to trust the result to avoid national disaster.
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He got a lot of congress on his side.
I think it's certain that the rather significant voter support and election integrity efforts made a big difference, and officials like Krebs made a big difference as well. There were a lot of people who worked hard to make the election fair and representative. The enemy was a lying, crazy monster, and many knew that Trump was capable of great mischief.
I hate to think what could've happened if so many people didn't put in the work they did on the election. I think America dodged a bullet.
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Segnosaur
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There was little chance of the riot succeeding in its goals, and all of Trump's attempts to change election results through the courts failed.
But, there were still major risks... Despite the fact that Biden got millions more votes than Trump, the margin of victory in several key swing states was fairly narrow. Had Trump been just a little more successful with his attempts at voter suppression (such as interfering with mail-in ballots, or if some of his schemes like "Hunter Biden Laptop" actually found traction), we might have had a repeat of 2016... a Trump loss in the popular vote but victory in the electoral college.
Stacyhs
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Please learn the difference between "capital" and "capitol". That would be a good start. Then you could work on learning the difference between between a "protest" and an "attempted coup". Hint: armed "protesters" don't forcefully and illegally break into the Capitol while legislators are in the middle of certifying an election and declare they're going to take over, hang the VP, shoot Nancy Pelosi's brains out, and overturn the election.
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What a bunch of BS.
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Look up the definition of a coup. It says nothing about the perpetrators needing to be heavily armed, or how successful the outcome needs to be.
Edit: it's like that Breivik wannabe in Norway who stormed a mosque with a rifle only to be beaten up by two elderly men who were there for prayers. He failed miserably, but it was still clearly an attempted terrorist attack.
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I expect the National Guard will *not* be told "no riot gear, no looking at ISR" and other such nonsense this time, and will thus have something for their asses if they decide to show up again.
(For reference, this sort of thing will absolutely not go their way again. The actual threat is in smaller groups or individuals, better organized at state capitols, public gatherings, and other softer targets. It's going to take a while to fully flush these maggots out - nobody should be shocked, it's a consequence of electing a lazy, petty, narcissistic white supremacist and conspiracy theorist to high office.)
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I think that might have been the bigger danger than the riot which would have eventually been put down. Trump finally telling people to go home was almost certainly after he realized they were not going to succeed.
But that certain legislators could simply stop certification of their states' election results was disturbing to me. One step further than disenfranchising so many voters.
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