Cont: Trump’s Coup - Part 2

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Vixen said:
Now that Trump is starting his own party, that would have the effect of splitting the Republican vote giving the Democrats an even stronger majority, so yes, more of an incentive for Republican Senators to uphold his impeachment and thus debar Trump from ever standing for election ever again.
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Can’t find this anywhere in the online media - source?
 
alfaniner said:
They've already had four years. I assumed the criminal charges are for actions he performed before he became President.
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Well there are a few things he might be criminally liable for since he was elected... Such as fraud charges related to his inauguration funding. (Plus his election fraud crimes may have happened pre-election but they could not have been revealed early enough to charge him with before he became president).

As for why he hadn't been charged/convicted of things like tax fraud BEFORE becoming president... It's just the nature of the criminal justice system. These types of crimes can go undetected for years. (Look at Paul Manafort... Some of the crimes he was found guilty of went back years, and might never have been detected if he hadn't gotten associated with trump.)

Why would the police/FBI spend the resources trying to investigate fraud bilking people out of millions of dollars or cheating the tax system when they can instead prosecute some poor kid for having some tiny amount of marijuana?




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Darat said:
Can’t find this anywhere in the online media - source?
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This:

Trump 'is drafting an enemies list of Republicans for his Patriot Party to challenge in primaries' - and 'already has $70M in campaign cash on hand' as he plots to squeeze GOP senators to avoid impeachment conviction
Trump is reportedly pushing forward with his plan to create a new 'Patriot Party'
Believes it will give him leverage in Senate impeachment trial next month
He is already drafting an enemies list of Republicans to target in primaries
Reps. Liz Cheney and Tom Rice, Georgia Governor Brian Kemp, and Senator Lisa Murkowski are all on the list, and could face Patriot Party challenges in 2022
Sources say Trump already has $70 million in campaign cash on hand
His campaign raised millions after Election Day on his challenges to the results
'We'll do something, but not just yet,' he said at Mar-a-Lago on Friday
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I should have seen the 'reportedly' and the quotation marks. I am usually alert to this type of headline. ('Sources say', 'could', 'may', 'what next for...' 'Will he..?')

Always be wary.
 
Vixen said:
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I should have seen the 'reportedly' and the quotation marks. I am usually alert to this type of headline. ('Sources say', 'could', 'may', 'what next for...' 'Will he..?')

Always be wary.
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Thanks -cI didn’t know if I had missed something.

It’s Trump, that may be a plan of his children but not one Trump could manage.
 
acbytesla said:
Graham won't be running again for another 6 years. Also, SC is still a pretty red State. It should be noted by Republicans that down ticket members of their party did beter than Trump.
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SC will, along with Alabama and Mississippi, the last states to go Blue.
 
Mississippi has an almost 40% African American population, the largest in the US (outside of DC and the Virgin Islands).

You can only run on an openly racist platform for long before that bites you in the ass.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Mississippi has an almost 40% African American population, the largest in the US (outside of DC and the Virgin Islands).

You can only run on an openly racist platform for long before that bites you in the ass.
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We just learned in Georgia how that works. This is why I can see SC and Mississippi flipping before Utah,Idaho, Indiana and the Dakotas.
 
dirtywick said:
There’s considerations beyond this also. For instance, safely red Lindsey Graham won his re-election, but his win margin closed 6 points in 2020. The Dems turnout more than doubled, as did his own. He was out funded and the race gained national attention.

Do they want to be pro Trump in competitive races in 2022? Do they want to run for open seats as the pro Trump candidate?
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How things will sort out in two years remains to be seen. But I suspect that a lot of Republicans are between a rock and a hard place. The Trump true believers still constitute a big portion, perhaps a majority of Republicans. Telling the truth about Trumps ridiculous claims of a stolen election will likely cause them to lose a primary. However, I think they are going to have hard time winning a general election if they embrace the Trump lies. For heavily republican House districts, I suspect that staying with the Trump program is the way to go, and those that are insufficiently wacko will likely be defeated by real wackos like Greene and Boebert. So my cautiously optimistic prediction for 2022 is that Democrats will increase their majority in the Senate, hold a majority in the House, but a lot of the House Republicans will be complete, Qanon (or whatever conspiracy theory replaces it) believing nutjobs.
 
Fast Eddie B said:
I think it was in this thread I asked if somewhere there was a comprehensive list of those charged in the Jan 6 Capitol insurrection.

Looks like USA Today has provided this important service:

https://www.usatoday.com/storytelling/capitol-riot-mob-arrests/
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Haha, Mom has been charged:

Charges
Conspiracy civil disorders; restricted buildings or grounds; violent entry or disorderly conduct

What happened
Lisa Marie Eisenhart traveled with her son, Eric Munchel, to Washington D.C. The FBI obtained surveillance video from their hotel, the Grand Hyatt, showing them leaving to go to the rally. Video footage from inside the Capitol shows Eisenhart and Munchel near a mob trying to attack two Capitol police officers guarding the entrance to the Senate, the FBI wrote in a statement. The footage shows officers run past Eisenhart and Munchel, then the mother and son follow after them, each holding flex cuffs, the FBI stated.
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