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Cont: Trump’s Coup - Part 2

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dudalb said:
Hell no. If he wants to flee the country, let him. Good riddence to Bad garbage.
Same attitude Lincoln had toward Jefferson Davis.
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Unlike for Davis, Trump can still be effective from Outer Mongolia via the internet. If not moreso - US laws will no longer apply so there would be no limits to what he could say or incite. He needs to be kept under control right now, and that means keeping him inside the USA.

Tents, inside, outside, pissing, etc.
 
JoeMorgue said:
//Total Hijack//
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I remember a news story many, many years ago about a man who was on the bus carrying a sack. As he got off the bus, he threw the sack over his shoulder, and then turned around, got back on the bus, and asked the driver to take him to the hospital because he had a cobra in the sack and it bit him when he slung it over his shoulder.
 
Way to go Putin! First he gets Trump elected, and Putin forgets to take over Ukraine in the 4 years Trump would do nothing. Then at the last minute Trump launches a missile or two.

This moment, if any, is the time for Putin to release Pee Pee Tapes. Trump would resign.
 
Armitage72 said:
I remember a news story many, many years ago about a man who was on the bus carrying a sack. As he got off the bus, he threw the sack over his shoulder, and then turned around, got back on the bus, and asked the driver to take him to the hospital because he had a cobra in the sack and it bit him when he slung it over his shoulder.
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This is why you don’t skimp on cobra sacks. It’s really worth the extra money to get a high quality one.
 
Re 25th versus impeachment: They are not mutually exclusive. Trump can be immediately deactivated using the 25th, while impeachment proceedings are launched and progressed.

And as has been discussed extensively for years in another thread, there is ample evidence that Trump has demonstrated he is not capable of discharging the powers and duties of his office. His prime loyally-sworn duty has been to protect the constitution of the USA, not violate it as he did yesterday. That alone is sufficient reason to cut him off at the knees immediately.

There is a third option: Trump resigns immediately, like Nixon. Won't happen - Trump is too insane to admit he needs to do this.

And a fourth option: Whisky and a Walther, and time alone.
 
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JoeMorgue said:
//Total Hijack//

I follow a YouTube channel of a guy who "reviews" exotic reptiles and explains why they, in most cases, do NOT make good pets.

His review of the King Cobra is hilarious for when, after explaining all the other many, many, many valid reasons a King Cobra would not make a good pet, he gets down to the cost breakdown of what it would take to properly house and care for it, including the several thousands dollars worth of anti-venom you need to keep on hand at all times.

"Yeah I said anti-venom. You're going to need to keep your own supply of Anti-Venom. Why am I telling you to keep your own anti-venom? Well do an experiment. Go down to your local hospital holding your arm and tell them that you've been bit by a King Cobra and you need some anti-venom and just watch the look on their face. They will look at you like 'What? How? How did you get bit by a King Cobra? You weren't bitten by a King Cobra you moron. You were bitten by some local snake.' and when you tell them 'Yeah I have a pet Cobra' they are going to go 'Oh... okay... well *Stammers* Well... we have morphine. I can give you that. We'll make some calls. So just sit tight.'

A King Cobra bite can kill you in under an hour. So yea anti-venom. It's not cheap. It's not easy to get. It doesn't last long so you'll have to replace it often. And you're going to need a lot of it because it can take up 20-30 doses of antivenom to counteract the bite of a large King Cobra."
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Heh! //More Total Hijack//

I remember watching a show back in the day about a South African park ranger getting bit on the upper thigh by a black mamba (another elapid!). He quickly tied a tourniquet around his leg and tried to walk back to his land rover. Fortunately, some tourists were driving by and he manage to flag them down and together they went to the local hospital which took about 30 min(?).

When he arrived at the hospital he told the Doctors what had happened and they asked (wait for it) "Are you sure you were bit by a black mamba?" To which he replied "yes, of course I'm sure! I'm the bloody park ranger!" Well, you should be dead by now!"

Anyway, they decided that it was better just to put him on a ventilator instead of giving him anti-venom (I can't remember why). So that meant that for about 24 hours he was basically paralyzed, had no feeling at all, and could only hear things going on around him (I'm not sure if he could even blink his eyes). A pretty horrific 24 hours when you think about it. Not to mention all the jokester Hospital staff coming in to your room, "Hey, Bill, check this out. I'm going to make him slap his own face! Why are you hitting yourself?"
 
dirtywick said:
That the pentagon’s acting commander was talking with congress and not the commander in chief should tell us all we need to know about where they stand on Trump. He lost everyone yesterday imo
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DEFSEC and Congressional leaders communicate all the time without impropriety.

Do you have evidence of any?

I also seriously doubt DEFSEC and POTUS never communicated at all.

This is right-wing hysteria.

Mayor of D.C. properly requested guard activation. DEFSEC has discretion to activate. The President could issue a directive to rescind that order, but he doesn't have to personally order the DEFSEC to do it.
 
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Darat said:
It’s the same as the calls saying Trump shouldn’t be “gone after” once he leaves office because it “won’t bring the country together” or “it’s will be seen as vindictive”.

No it is called showing the country that everyone has to follow the laws and when you don’t there are consequences.
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I think "bringing the country together" is pretty much gone as an excuse that works.
 
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johnny karate said:
Well gosh, we certainly can’t risk resentment from Republicans! Why, I can’t even imagine what that would look like.

Perhaps instead, they should each be brought a hot cup of cocoa and given a foot massage.
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The important thing is that they resent being forced to go on record, and they express themselves by voting against you, and you lose.

Basically, never force a vote on something unless you are confident you are going to win it. The people who are on the fence will vote against you if you push too soon.
 
acbytesla said:
It doesn't say medical.
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No, but what else would make someone incapable after they are elected?

I'm including mental health under "medical". I like the "Captain Queeg" analogy, but I would include Queeg's condition as a mental health issue.

I think Trump could be considered to have mental health issues even beyond the malignant narcissism that he has had since birth. I think since the election he has lapsed into a combination of delusion and depression that makes him unfit for office. Now, if someone can just sell that idea to his cabinet.
 
pgwenthold said:
I have heard verification that he is still "suspended" (my word) after he objects for the 4 days that the VP has to respond. However, I don't know if that holds during the 3 weeks that Congress has to respond.
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You would think that by the 1960s, when that amendment was ratified, they would have figured out how to write unambiguous laws.
 
ChristianProgressive said:
For what it's worth, foreign governments suspect it was a coup attempt with tacit support from several Federal agencies.

https://www.businessinsider.com/tru...iZvmxcDMut7SDsICVoWNWc1ZTPSEutD2fLH_WEdmKuzgc

There was a video up on Occupy Democrats of Trump and his family watching the start of the riot/coup from a private "command center" they had set up in the WH, but it got pulled suddenly.
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If it was an actual planned coup attempt it was not very well planned or coupy enough.
 
Meadmaker said:
No, but what else would make someone incapable after they are elected?

I'm including mental health under "medical". I like the "Captain Queeg" analogy, but I would include Queeg's condition as a mental health issue.

I think Trump could be considered to have mental health issues even beyond the malignant narcissism that he has had since birth. I think since the election he has lapsed into a combination of delusion and depression that makes him unfit for office. Now, if someone can just sell that idea to his cabinet.
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I don't think it's going to happen. I mean it would require Republicans to have principles and courage. There might be a few out there, but there are very few.
 
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