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Trump's Coup d'état.

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cosmicaug said:
Indeed. We should all just be thankful that it will be Biden who gets to replace the SCOTUS vacancy left behind when Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg died*.


* Because we obviously must have a vacancy since Mitch McConnell said he would not consider a SCOTUS Justice nomination vote close to a presidential election.
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I repeat, state and federal legislatures are not as intertwined as you seem to believe.

Federal legislators benefit directly from a GOP POTUS. State governments don't.
 
Cavemonster said:
And even if Mitch HAD somehow gone back on his word, he wouldn't have had the votes to confirm. Because senators like Lindsey Graham said explicitly:

So seriously, people who try to tell me not to worry because republican politicians promised they'd do the right thing can bite my ass.
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Got a state Republican example that is equivalent?
 
Here's some actual evidence, not hypothetical:

CNN Reality Check: Trump's public schedules show little interest in work as he protests Biden's legitimate election
But as he mounts a fierce battle to remain in office and refuses to concede the election he lost, Trump has shown little interest in the work of being President. Since he vowed to fight the election results in the wee hours after Election Day, Trump, who has spent four years producing television moments showcasing his office, has made few efforts to show the American people he is still governing. ...

He was at the club as major networks declared the race for his opponent.
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Does that sound like someone scheming to pull off a coup?
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Got a state Republican example that is equivalent?
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I'm not saying that I have absolute certainty that officials will go along with a Trump plan.

I'm saying that such a thing is not impossible simply because they said otherwise. I can't point to many examples of these very specific people's prior actions, partly because state level politicians more rarely rise to the national spotlight.

But I've seen enough of the party that approves of Trump 95% and made "Whatever Trump wants" the party platform for 2020, that I don't have confidence that politicians within that party will keep their word.

And after what we've seen for the past 12 years (at least) I don't think they've earned an assumption that they will keep their word.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
1) Trump needs a lot more than Georgia.
2) Georgia's SoS outed this pressure publicly, calling Graham out for example. He also called out his party's Senate candidates for calling for his resignation.
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Skeptic Ginger said:
ftfy, Fox News has abandoned Donny, and after all he did for them. :rolleyes:


Does anyone think Bonespurs Trump and Landscaper Giuliani are actually competent enough to pull off a coup?
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So, the tweet is a pretty good summation of your attitude? That we should relax because it is merely an attempted coup and we can rest easy because those attempting it are totally incompetent?
 
angrysoba said:
So, the tweet is a pretty good summation of your attitude? That we should relax because it is merely an attempted coup and we can rest easy because those attempting it are totally incompetent?
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Honestly, the incompetence of this particular crew of coup attempters* is the most reassuring thing about this absurd debacle that the country is finding itself in.

*Not plotters as I think this a 'seat of the pants' kind of thing (if there was any plotting, it was probably premised on a closer race where Pennsylvania and only Pennsylvania was in question)
 
cosmicaug said:
Honestly, the incompetence of this particular crew of coup attempters* is the most reassuring thing about this absurd debacle that the country is finding itself in.
*Not plotters as I think this a 'seat of the pants' kind of thing (if there was any plotting, it was probably premised on a closer race where Pennsylvania and only Pennsylvania was in question)
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Indeed. It seems that getting rid of Joffrey is (hopefully) not the problem, and perhaps the American political system is passing its stress test on him. But it doesn't bode well for when your Ramsay Bolton emerges.
 
Emily's Cat said:
I'm not saying there's a teapot orbiting Mercury. I'm just saying that it's not impossible.
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It's more like:

"The guy who mans the machine that can launch random things into orbit swears he would never launch a teapot, even though his boss is pressuring him to do so and people who work at the place that launches things into space have a general record of doing whatever their boss says and lying about it"
 
angrysoba said:
Indeed. It seems that getting rid of Joffrey is (hopefully) not the problem, and perhaps the American political system is passing its stress test on him. But it doesn't bode well for when your Ramsay Bolton emerges.
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I wonder if Joffrey would not probably have been re-elected, with relative ease and thanks to the Electoral College, had he not killed ~100000 Americans?
 
Cavemonster said:
I'm not saying that I have absolute certainty that officials will go along with a Trump plan.

I'm saying that such a thing is not impossible simply because they said otherwise. I can't point to many examples of these very specific people's prior actions, partly because state level politicians more rarely rise to the national spotlight.

But I've seen enough of the party that approves of Trump 95% and made "Whatever Trump wants" the party platform for 2020, that I don't have confidence that politicians within that party will keep their word.

And after what we've seen for the past 12 years (at least) I don't think they've earned an assumption that they will keep their word.
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It was claimed because the Republicans in the federal legislature were not good for their word that the state Republicans weren't.

So I asked for an equivalent example of state GOP legislators going back on a public statement that they made that they weren't going to overturn their state's voters.
 
cosmicaug said:
Sure, that's exactly the same thing.

:rolleyes:
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Actually... it pretty much was the same thing. It's speculation based on belief.

Pragmatically, it's not going to happen. The electors aren't going to be faithless and put Trump in office. The states aren't going to replace their electors with those that will be faithless and vote for Trump. The military isn't going to back a coup. At the very worst, come January, the secret service will escort a very grumpy Trump out of the white house.
 
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angrysoba said:
So, the tweet is a pretty good summation of your attitude? That we should relax because it is merely an attempted coup and we can rest easy because those attempting it are totally incompetent?
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Where's that straw man emoji when we need one?
 
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