Trump's Coup d'état.

[Horatius]

And of course, the lead on the Fox News web page is Purdue calling the leaking of the audio "disgusting". He's not saying the audio is disgusting, but that the leaking of it was.

It's par for the course. In the minds of criminals, the greatest crime that can be committed is providing evidence of their crimes. "Snitches get stitches."

 

[timhau]

Wow. This story:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/trump-election-defense-secretaries-public-letter/index.html

All 10 living former Secretaries of Defense have declared that the election is over, and Biden won. The good news is that they did it. The bad new is that they felt they had to.

That's pretty impressive when you consider that some of the people on the list would argue with each other about the color of an orange.

It also includes Dick Cheney taking a moral stance. Dick *********** Cheney.

 

[pgwenthold]

That's pretty impressive when you consider that some of the people on the list would argue with each other about the color of an orange.

Once on Twitter, I asked the question, "Do we call an orange an orange because it's orange? Or do we call the color orange because it is the same color as an orange?"

I got an answer. In fact, the color orange is called that because of the fruit. The fruit was called orange before the color. Therefore, by definition, an orange is orange.

I have some weird friends on Twitter, who know about things like this. The person who responded actually provided a history of the word orange.

 

[Darat]

Once on Twitter, I asked the question, "Do we call an orange an orange because it's orange? Or do we call the color orange because it is the same color as an orange?"

I got an answer. In fact, the color orange is called that because of the fruit. The fruit was called orange before the color. Therefore, by definition, an orange is orange.

I have some weird friends on Twitter, who know about things like this. The person who responded actually provided a history of the word orange.

Yeah until we had oranges the English language didn’t have a word for the colour orange - we’d use red.

(I listen to Radio 4.)

 

[Ladewig]

Wow. This story:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/trump-election-defense-secretaries-public-letter/index.html

All 10 living former Secretaries of Defense have declared that the election is over, and Biden won. The good news is that they did it. The bad new is that they felt they had to.

The worse news is it will not change anyone’s opinion.

The even worse news is there are people who think that because FoxNews didn’t run the story it is false. People who believe that dozens of news source can make up a story out of thin air and falsely ascribe a political position to Dick Cheney without any repercussions at all. I don’t know how many people there are, but I met a married couple who fall into that group.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

Yeah until we had oranges the English language didn’t have a word for the colour orange - we’d use red.

(I listen to Radio 4.)

We also have a separate word for less saturated, less bright orange - "brown".

 

[JoeMorgue]

We also have a separate word for less saturated, less bright orange - "brown".

Grif: Uh... hey, Donut?

Donut: What?

Simmons: Um, about your armor...

Donut: What about it?

Simmons: How do I put this... Your armor is, um... It's a little, um... Grif, uh, you wanna help me out here?

Grif: It's pink. Your armor is frickin' pink!

Simmons: Yeah, that's it. Pink.

Donut: Pink? My armor's not pink!

Grif: PINK.

Simmons: Yeah, definitely pink.

Donut: You guys are color-blind. Why would they give me pink armor?

Grif: Hey, don't ask, don't tell.

Simmons: (over Grif's laughter) Heh, that's not funny.

Grif: (laughs a little more) It's a little funny.

Donut: Look at it, it's not pink. It's like, uh.. a "lightish red".

Grif: Guess what? They already have a color for lightish red. You know what it's called? Pink.

Donut: I hate you guys.

 

[Bob001]

Referring to Trump's promotion of crazy conspiracy theories, a commentator this morning said "He's high on his own supply."

 

[Ladewig]

Referring to Trump's promotion of crazy conspiracy theories, a commentator this morning said "He's high on his own supply."

Yep.
I said it 4 years ago.

Donald Trump is peddling BS and is violating Scarface Rule number two: don't get high on your own supply.

 

[Firestone]

The Coup is going nowhere, as enough Republican senators oppose it, and the House has a Democratic majority anyway.

Yesterday, some Republican House members put out a statement opposing the coup. Part of their argumentation is ... interesting:

From a purely partisan perspective, Republican presidential candidates have won the national popular vote only once in the last 32 years. They have therefore depended on the electoral college for nearly all presidential victories in the last generation. If we perpetuate the notion that Congress may disregard certified electoral votes—based solely on its own assessment that one or more states mishandled the presidential election—we will be delegitimizing the very system that led Donald Trump to victory in 2016, and that could provide the only path to victory in 2024.

https://massie.house.gov/news/email/show.aspx?ID=Z5MPA3CVK5FYZQ3KBYQIDSAWB4

 

[Dave Rogers]

Yesterday, some Republican House members put out a statement opposing the coup. Part of their argumentation is ... interesting:

All of it is... interesting. It boils down to "We believe all the conspiracy theories but we can't do anything about it and it's in our longer term interests not to rock the boat." It's as much part of the delegitimization of democracy as anything Trump's said or done.

Dave

 

[acbytesla]

Delete

 

[dudalb]

New Nickname for those 12 GOP Senators trying to overturn the election:

The Dirty Dozen.

 

[Random]

All of it is... interesting. It boils down to "We believe all the conspiracy theories but we can't do anything about it and it's in our longer term interests not to rock the boat." It's as much part of the delegitimization of democracy as anything Trump's said or done.

Dave

Yeah, the bold stand of, "The dice are rigged in our favor. Let's not have them thrown away over any one particular roll..."

 

[Cavemonster]

One thing though, I'm in general a lukewarm democrat, but the things that Republicans pick to be upset by tend to increase my trust in democrats. If there were things more worthy of meaningful critique, one might imagine that the people dedicated to highlighting anything on the left they can attack would find them.

Not that there aren't any petty or innacurate criticisms of Trump and the GOP either, but look at the ratio and the energy put behind things.

In the last few weeks, we get ridiculous accusations of voter fraud, tossed out of every court, Jill Biden can't be called "Dr" and a dumb piece of wordplay.

When the right puts so much energy into tan suits and dijon mustard, it increases my feeling that either there's a bit less worthy of real condemnation happening on the left, or the right is so broken that they don't value attacking real problems or corruption. Either way, it makes voting easier.

 

[wareyin]

One thing though, I'm in general a lukewarm democrat, but the things that Republicans pick to be upset by tend to increase my trust in democrats. If there were things more worthy of meaningful critique, one might imagine that the people dedicated to highlighting anything on the left they can attack would find them.

Not that there aren't any petty or innacurate criticisms of Trump and the GOP either, but look at the ratio and the energy put behind things.

In the last few weeks, we get ridiculous accusations of voter fraud, tossed out of every court, Jill Biden can't be called "Dr" and a dumb piece of wordplay.

When the right puts so much energy into tan suits and dijon mustard, it increases my feeling that either there's a bit less worthy of real condemnation happening on the left, or the right is so broken that they don't value attacking real problems or corruption. Either way, it makes voting easier.

This feels like it's in the wrong thread. Were you intending to comment on the thread about the latest fake outrage by conservatives?

 

[Minoosh]

The Coup is going nowhere, as enough Republican senators oppose it, and the House has a Democratic majority anyway.

Yesterday, some Republican House members put out a statement opposing the coup. Part of their argumentation is ... interesting:

I love their reasoning. It works well as very high-level satire. Any statement that the GOP has won the popular vote only once in 32 years is framing this perfectly. "This anti-democratic workaround could interfere with our other anti-democratic workaround!"

But I seem to be in a very contrarian mood today. I am happy to see Republicans attacking other Republicans at this level.

Democrats plus even 25 percent of Republicans is a coalition.

 

[Minoosh]

Now, please God, Thy will be done and everything, but I do have an opinion, and if in your infinite wisdom it happens that Trump totally urges his fans tonight to (strongly) boycott the Ga. Senate runoff - "don't bother, it's all fixed, Fulton County already has this in the bag and this will teach the RINOs (like Mitch McConnell) a lesson" - that would be awesome.

ETA: Amen.

 

[dirtywick]

One thing though, I'm in general a lukewarm democrat, but the things that Republicans pick to be upset by tend to increase my trust in democrats. If there were things more worthy of meaningful critique, one might imagine that the people dedicated to highlighting anything on the left they can attack would find them.

Not that there aren't any petty or innacurate criticisms of Trump and the GOP either, but look at the ratio and the energy put behind things.

In the last few weeks, we get ridiculous accusations of voter fraud, tossed out of every court, Jill Biden can't be called "Dr" and a dumb piece of wordplay.

When the right puts so much energy into tan suits and dijon mustard, it increases my feeling that either there's a bit less worthy of real condemnation happening on the left, or the right is so broken that they don't value attacking real problems or corruption. Either way, it makes voting easier.

the R party is so far to the right and so devoid of any thoughtful ideas on government and law that the only meaningful critique of the left comes from within the left. you have to kind of keep that in mind when you read articles about infighting in the left.

 

[acbytesla]

Now, please God, Thy will be done and everything, but I do have an opinion, and if in your infinite wisdom it happens that Trump totally urges his fans tonight to (strongly) boycott the Ga. Senate runoff - "don't bother, it's all fixed, Fulton County already has this in the bag and this will teach the RINOs (like Mitch McConnell) a lesson" - that would be awesome.

ETA: Amen.

There are Republican pollsters who believe that Trump has mucked it up so bad that the Georgia Senate is lost. Hope that is true, but you never know.