Trump's accomplishments

Skeptic Ginger said:
Basically Trump threw the Palestinians under the bus to get whatever it is you think is a big deal.
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The Palestinians aren't actually any worse off with these deals than they were without. They could have been part of this. They could have gotten something out of it.

They chose not to. That's not Trump's fault. Nor is it wrong of him to leave them behind when others are willing to move forward.
 
Ziggurat said:
The Palestinians aren't actually any worse off with these deals than they were without. They could have been part of this. They could have gotten something out of it.
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You don't know that. Why are you pretending to know what you don't actually know?
 
JoeMorgue said:
1. He promoted the US Cyber Command to full combatant command. This is the one movie I will actually say I fully "Like." The government has been far too long in seeing our nation's cyber defense structure as a valid, integrated part of national defense and getting rid of the US Cyber Command's weird half structure dual hat setup that made doing anything impossible because you had two completely separate chains of command is a huge step in fixing that.
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Right, the cyber security that allowed one of the biggest hacks of government networks to happen.
 
wareyin said:
You don't know that. Why are you pretending to know what you don't actually know?
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Because that's what happens every time. The Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. It's a consistent pattern.
 
angrysoba said:
For me, a lot of this comes down to "What if Obama did it?"

1.) If Obama did Space Force with all the references to Star Trek and other SF. Would we say, "LOL! Stooooopid!" Or would we say, "That's so cool! It's almost Elon Musk-eque and no one has a problem with that!" So let's give Trump that one.
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Depends on which "we" you are referring to. And this presumes Obama would have been stooopid enough to waste time and money on it.

The whole thing IMO was Trump wanting to appear like JFK. I believe Trump made a few attempts to get excitement for putting people on Mars.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Kushner's greatest achievement in the Middle East was to force Qatar into leasing his devil building for 99 years for $1.1 billion.
There has never been a greater act of corruption in US politics in terms of shear size.
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Not sure if it's been mentioned yet but the colossal size of Trump personal grifting necessitates mention. The details won't fit on the page.
 
Ziggurat said:
So you don’t have any actual knowledge. You have second hand reporting of the opinions of people whom you don’t know if they have any insider knowledge, let alone what their motives are to spin it in whatever direction they want to, and you would have no idea.
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:rolleyes:

Oh for pity's sake. By that standard almost nothing on the whole forum is supported by evidence.
 
His big highlights (prior to Covid)

Tax cuts.
Deregulation. (Especially environmental rules)
Tax cuts.
He really ticked off liberals.
Tax cuts.
Beating the phony impeachment charges.
Tax cuts.
Three conservatives on the Supreme Court

And, the thing about tax cuts is he figured out how to avoid some of the nasty political fallout. All you have to do is skip the accompanying spending cuts. Past Republicans have cut taxes a lot, and cut spending a little. This made people mad because they didn't want anyone to cut spending. So, Trump didn't. It's a win-win for everyone except our children.

ETA: I forgot moving the embassy to Jerusalem, and tax cuts.
 
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i guess it's not surprising there's so little to talk about. the guy didn't really have a coherent agenda.

tax cuts
judiciary reform
USMCA
deregulation

and i'm not even sure how much of the deregulation was done via executive order. there's really not much of a lasting legacy there, aside from the tax cuts. even those will have to be revisited sooner rather than later.

he mostly spent a lot of time trying to put out fires he started.
 
Ziggurat said:
Because that's what happens every time. The Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. It's a consistent pattern.
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You have no insider knowledge, and are in no position to make that declaration. You say that because you can't conceive of it any other way, not because you actually have any evidence to that effect.
 
Darat said:
You also need to consider what he said he wanted to accomplish.

Two of his major campaigning policies were “the wall” and healthcare - he failed at both of those.

Another policy promise was removing many environmental protection regulations - he succeeded at that.
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Did he drain the swamp, or lock her up?
 
Meadmaker said:
His big highlights (prior to Covid)

Tax cuts.
Deregulation. (Especially environmental rules)
Tax cuts.
He really ticked off liberals.
Tax cuts.
Beating the phony impeachment charges.
Tax cuts.
Three conservatives on the Supreme Court

And, the thing about tax cuts is he figured out how to avoid some of the nasty political fallout. All you have to do is skip the accompanying spending cuts. Past Republicans have cut taxes a lot, and cut spending a little. This made people mad because they didn't want anyone to cut spending. So, Trump didn't. It's a win-win for everyone except our children.

ETA: I forgot moving the embassy to Jerusalem, and tax cuts.
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And destroying America.
 
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