Trump Org. and CFO Indicted

Doesn't the NY AG have Trumps personal taxes? I'm surprised that they were unable to find anything to charge Pres. Trump with.

According to the New York Times, who is no friend of Trump, the NY AG is going after Allen for taxes that were not paid for fringe benefits. Another New York Times article stated that it is uncommon enough to prosecute tax evasion on fringe benefits that tax experts were unable to volunteer any examples of this type of prosecution occurring.

When compared to the amount of effort, time, or money expelled to perpetually investigate any one individual or corporation; the amount of effort, time, and money being spent to investigate Trump, his family, and anybody associated with him can be easily labeled as excessive.

1. Are these charges a personal vendetta against a former president, for whom many found despicable, being done with the hope that it will limit Trump's prospects of running for president in the future?

2. Or has the lack of taxes paid on these fringe benefits by the Trump organization done real harm to citizens and can be viewed as a justified use of government funded prosecution?

3. Perhaps they hare better nderstood by a different narrative?
 
ServiceSoon said:
1. Are these charges a personal vendetta against a former president, for whom many found despicable, being done with the hope that it will limit Trump's prospects of running for president in the future?
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If Trump Org broke the law, then Trump Org broke the law. Whether they're going after Trump specifically for this or as revenge, I'm not sure. I'm not really sure that, as just mentioned, it's even related to Trump's actual taxes. This is all based off of the Trump Org and Allen. The fact these laws aren't prosecuted is the ******** part, imho.

ServiceSoon said:
2. Or has the lack of taxes paid on these fringe benefits by the Trump organization done real harm to citizens and can be viewed as a justified use of government funded prosecution?
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From the one article I saw it was claimed that just the taxes on the benefits was >USD$1.1mm. That's about a $100k a year. I'd think that would do some good for the city, state, and nation.

ServiceSoon said:
3. Perhaps they are better understood by a different narrative?
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They broke the law. The fact that Trump's boasting about how he pays little in taxes, the times he's got caught breaking campaign finance laws, and his pompous boasting about how awesome he is brought him unwanted attention. The narrative is the squeaky wheel gets the grease, that's not always a good thing.
 
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ServiceSoon said:
Doesn't the NY AG have Trumps personal taxes? I'm surprised that they were unable to find anything to charge Pres. Trump with.

According to the New York Times, who is no friend of Trump, the NY AG is going after Allen for taxes that were not paid for fringe benefits. Another New York Times article stated that it is uncommon enough to prosecute tax evasion on fringe benefits that tax experts were unable to volunteer any examples of this type of prosecution occurring.

When compared to the amount of effort, time, or money expelled to perpetually investigate any one individual or corporation; the amount of effort, time, and money being spent to investigate Trump, his family, and anybody associated with him can be easily labeled as excessive.

1. Are these charges a personal vendetta against a former president, for whom many found despicable, being done with the hope that it will limit Trump's prospects of running for president in the future?

2. Or has the lack of taxes paid on these fringe benefits by the Trump organization done real harm to citizens and can be viewed as a justified use of government funded prosecution?

3. Perhaps they hare better nderstood by a different narrative?
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Different narrative: maybe there haven't been other prosecutions because no one has been as blatant as the Dump organization. And remember, had Dump not made such a big deal hiding his tax returns no one would have looked so closely at them.

Continuing different narrative: There is no need to rush in on Dump. Yes they have his tax returns, and he signed the checks like the one paying for the 30K tuition.

But one would want to build as strong a case as one could before indicting him. There are plenty more fish here to fry first, most importantly Dump's kids.

Dump as usual is trying to say they have no evidence on him or they would have indicted him. He has to keep that 'big lie' up as long as the grifting is still good. And he probably believes it himself like he believed the pandemic would just go away.
 
What's clear now is that the IRS does **** all to audit the taxes of the President, as is its job.
Democrats were 100% right in demanding to see what the IRS was doing with Trump's tax returns (pretend they are not there).
Heads need to roll.
 
ServiceSoon said:
Doesn't the NY AG have Trumps personal taxes? I'm surprised that they were unable to find anything to charge Pres. Trump with.

According to the New York Times, who is no friend of Trump, the NY AG is going after Allen for taxes that were not paid for fringe benefits. Another New York Times article stated that it is uncommon enough to prosecute tax evasion on fringe benefits that tax experts were unable to volunteer any examples of this type of prosecution occurring.

When compared to the amount of effort, time, or money expelled to perpetually investigate any one individual or corporation; the amount of effort, time, and money being spent to investigate Trump, his family, and anybody associated with him can be easily labeled as excessive.

1. Are these charges a personal vendetta against a former president, for whom many found despicable, being done with the hope that it will limit Trump's prospects of running for president in the future?

2. Or has the lack of taxes paid on these fringe benefits by the Trump organization done real harm to citizens and can be viewed as a justified use of government funded prosecution?

3. Perhaps they hare better nderstood by a different narrative?
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They are taking away all the brat's toys BEFORE they put the brat in the naughty corner.
 
timhau said:
Will they? If they were regular Western banks they would, but they haven't been doing business with Donny for a while.
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Dump is losing sway however. Can he still launder money for the Russian oligarchs? Probably not, he's under too much scrutiny. Does he have a chance of winning in 2024? Doubt it. Do his assets cover his debts? If they did the Western banks probably wouldn't have cut him loose.

It might be a free-for-all if more than one entity holds outstanding debt and they want to get anything out before the rush.
 
ServiceSoon said:
Doesn't the NY AG have Trumps personal taxes? I'm surprised that they were unable to find anything to charge Pres. Trump with.

According to the New York Times, who is no friend of Trump, the NY AG is going after Allen for taxes that were not paid for fringe benefits. Another New York Times article stated that it is uncommon enough to prosecute tax evasion on fringe benefits that tax experts were unable to volunteer any examples of this type of prosecution occurring.

When compared to the amount of effort, time, or money expelled to perpetually investigate any one individual or corporation; the amount of effort, time, and money being spent to investigate Trump, his family, and anybody associated with him can be easily labeled as excessive.

1. Are these charges a personal vendetta against a former president, for whom many found despicable, being done with the hope that it will limit Trump's prospects of running for president in the future?

2. Or has the lack of taxes paid on these fringe benefits by the Trump organization done real harm to citizens and can be viewed as a justified use of government funded prosecution?

3. Perhaps they hare better nderstood by a different narrative?
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"Narratives." Uh-huh. All a propaganda war, you might say, unless...gee, there is a pesky paper trail and a set of legally-binding declarations and assertions within. Sometimes, facts speak for themselves, and "understanding" is a question of listening to them.

Reality, please take the stand.
 
I don’t find the argument that it’s not fair to prosecute this guy for defrauding the government of over a million dollars because most of the time they don’t care when people do this both improbable and unconvincing. Avoiding paying over a million dollars whether it’s by fringe benefits or some other means is incredibly greedy. The defense that this is standard industry behavior is something everyone should be skeptical of.
 
dirtywick said:
I don’t find the argument that it’s not fair to prosecute this guy for defrauding the government of over a million dollars because most of the time they don’t care when people do this both improbable and unconvincing. Avoiding paying over a million dollars whether it’s by fringe benefits or some other means is incredibly greedy. The defense that this is standard industry behavior is something everyone should be skeptical of.
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It might be standard practice to provide perks. But everybody, certainly the Chief Financial Officer, knows that they are taxable income. They're not gifts. That's the issue. And we might find out down the road that the Trump Org. was deducting those outlays as business expenses, which would be a different fraud.
 
dirtywick said:
Avoiding paying over a million dollars whether it’s by fringe benefits or some other means is incredibly greedy.
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I think his tax avoidance (amount due but unpaid) was more along the lines of hundreds of thousands.
 
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