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Split Thread Trump-Kennedy center sues artist for cancelling because of name change

Um... do you know the history of Volkswagen? If your principles require you to have absolutely nothing to do with evil people, then you definitely should make sure you avoid Volkswagens like they're made of poisonous lava.
Why?

Volkswagen as they are today are down to the British Army Of Occupation.
The Royal Engineers put the production line back in to operation to provide small staff cars for the British and American forces in Germany. It also provided some work the locals.

So Volkswagen, if anything are rhe reverse of what you are trying to say.
 
A prayer for relief in an American civil complaint will typically ask for compensatory damages, punitive damages, attorney's costs, and a catch-all award for any other amount the court deems proper. A plaintiff may also pray for equitable relief such as release from a contractual obligation.

The amount of compensatory damages—actual loss incurred—must be supported in court by evidence and thus bear some resemblance to reality. The trier of fact will determine whether that evidence is credible and award an amount consistent with the strength of the evidence and the particulars of the claim.
Would the Kennedy Center's statement that the concert had "dismal ticket sales and lack of donor support" be admissible in the assessment of damages?
 
Would the Kennedy Center's statement that the concert had "dismal ticket sales and lack of donor support" be admissible in the assessment of damages?
That's one of the things various legal commentators make about Trump and his numerous legal cases. He does everything he can to undermine them with the public statements and records he and his administration make.
 
Why don't they just get someone else like Kid Rock to do the gig.

I think the loss of revenue is required to be there as evidence of material damage.
Do we have the actual suit yet?

It is a legally valid defence to bring up that the injured party would have been able to with reasonable effort remedy whatever they are claiming they have lost but chose not to. The word "reasonable" does a lot of work in contracts and contract disputes.
 
Do we have the actual suit yet?

It is a legally valid defence to bring up that the injured party would have been able to with reasonable effort remedy whatever they are claiming they have lost but chose not to. The word "reasonable" does a lot of work in contracts and contract disputes.
I think this would come up as "mitigation of loss" in assessment of damages rather than a defence - a claimant has a duty to take action to reduce any losses.

ETA: I'm not a lawyer.
 
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Do we have the actual suit yet?

It is a legally valid defence to bring up that the injured party would have been able to with reasonable effort remedy whatever they are claiming they have lost but chose not to. The word "reasonable" does a lot of work in contracts and contract disputes.
Again, Redd cancelled the day before he was scheduled to perform. It is not reasonable to expect a replacement act that fast.
 
Do we have the actual suit yet?
Nothing yet filed in the D.C. district court as of this writing.

Would the Kennedy Center's statement that the concert had "dismal ticket sales and lack of donor support" be admissible in the assessment of damages?
The actual financial position of the concert would be probative to that end. But mere statements made in public wouldn't necessarily be that evidence. The evidence in court would be financial records and statements attested to by the center's accountants regardless of any derogatory statements the center may have made in public.

Based on what the Kennedy Center posted on its Facebook page, I would think that performers would now have a solid case for being able to cancel performances based on the Kennedy Center driving away potential ticket buyers:
Any statement to the effect that the center is intentionally changing its image would help an argument founded on its reputation among performers and patrons.

If Redd argues that the change of name had the effect of changing the institution's reputation, and the center counters by saying the name change enhanced the center's reputation, then factual evidence concerning the change's reputational effect would become fair game for discovery, would it not?
Yes, to the effect that the change of reputation was intended.

Reputation is not really the right concept, though. As I said, what's Charlie Kirk's reputation? Was he a bigot or a saint? A better way to think about it is in terms of value to the other party.

It may not ultimately matter if the center's stated intent was to improve their reputation, but discovery reveals internal documents asserting that the real purpose was to flatter some fat orange slob. The intent to make a material change at all is more important than a disinterested party's opinion of the value of the change. What matters is the change in value to the other party, who does have an interest.

I have an antique parlour organ that belonged to my great grandmother. If I enter into a contract of sale for it to an antiques collector, and before I deliver it I strip its finish and give it a nice shiny new coat of polyurethane, the buyer might have cause to withdraw from the sale because I have altered the value of the artifact to the buyer. One could argue that I increased the organ's value by giving it a better, more protective finish. But that's not what the buyer considers valuable about an antique organ.

Similarly if I arrange to sell a batch of Sigmund the Sea Monster collectible action figures and I remove them from the packaging in order to fit them into the shipping box, the buyer may have cause to withdraw. Anyone who knows collectibles knows that their collectible value is destroyed by removing the object from its packaging. There is negligible loss of inherent value in doing so, but there is a tremendous loss of value to the buyer.

On the other side of the coin, have a look at my avatar. The contract by which I appeared in that stage production included clauses that forbade me from materially changing my appearance during the run of the show. This is common for actors. They may not cut or color their hair, or get new tattoos etc. This is because the other party to the contract—the theater—has contracted for my likeness as it stands. I have a duty of care to preserve that likeness in the form that has the contracted-for value to the theater. The point is not whether I would look good in a mustache or not. The point is whether that mustache alters my value to the other party as the contract regards it.

But of course we circle back to the initial breach. The performer may have a defense in saying that performing at the venue no longer has the original value when the contract was made, and that the change in value to the performer was the result of the venue's intentional actions and thereby releases him. But assuming standard contract terms, the clear breach is Redd's. Unilaterally withdrawing from a contract is legally risky. Redd's value to the center is in his actually performing as promised to the center's ticket holders, no matter how few of them there may have been. His failure to perform was clearly intentional and caused a clear injury. That's where a court will look first.
 
Nothing yet filed in the D.C. district court as of this writing.


The actual financial position of the concert would be probative to that end. But mere statements made in public wouldn't necessarily be that evidence. The evidence in court would be financial records and statements attested to by the center's accountants regardless of any derogatory statements the center may have made in public.


Any statement to the effect that the center is intentionally changing its image would help an argument founded on its reputation among performers and patrons.


Yes, to the effect that the change of reputation was intended.

Reputation is not really the right concept, though. As I said, what's Charlie Kirk's reputation? Was he a bigot or a saint? A better way to think about it is in terms of value to the other party.

It may not ultimately matter if the center's stated intent was to improve their reputation, but discovery reveals internal documents asserting that the real purpose was to flatter some fat orange slob. The intent to make a material change at all is more important than a disinterested party's opinion of the value of the change. What matters is the change in value to the other party, who does have an interest.

I have an antique parlour organ that belonged to my great grandmother. If I enter into a contract of sale for it to an antiques collector, and before I deliver it I strip its finish and give it a nice shiny new coat of polyurethane, the buyer might have cause to withdraw from the sale because I have altered the value of the artifact to the buyer. One could argue that I increased the organ's value by giving it a better, more protective finish. But that's not what the buyer considers valuable about an antique organ.

Similarly if I arrange to sell a batch of Sigmund the Sea Monster collectible action figures and I remove them from the packaging in order to fit them into the shipping box, the buyer may have cause to withdraw. Anyone who knows collectibles knows that their collectible value is destroyed by removing the object from its packaging. There is negligible loss of inherent value in doing so, but there is a tremendous loss of value to the buyer.

On the other side of the coin, have a look at my avatar. The contract by which I appeared in that stage production included clauses that forbade me from materially changing my appearance during the run of the show. This is common for actors. They may not cut or color their hair, or get new tattoos etc. This is because the other party to the contract—the theater—has contracted for my likeness as it stands. I have a duty of care to preserve that likeness in the form that has the contracted-for value to the theater. The point is not whether I would look good in a mustache or not. The point is whether that mustache alters my value to the other party as the contract regards it.

But of course we circle back to the initial breach. The performer may have a defense in saying that performing at the venue no longer has the original value when the contract was made, and that the change in value to the performer was the result of the venue's intentional actions and thereby releases him. But assuming standard contract terms, the clear breach is Redd's. Unilaterally withdrawing from a contract is legally risky. Redd's value to the center is in his actually performing as promised to the center's ticket holders, no matter how few of them there may have been. His failure to perform was clearly intentional and caused a clear injury. That's where a court will look first.

I'm wondering if the argument could be made that the name change makes appearing there, or not, a political act. Political speech effectively and that therefore he has a 1A right not to be forced to make a political statement against his will.
 
Nothing yet filed in the D.C. district court as of this writing.
If they go through with the lawsuit, and I'm not convinced that they will, it will be interesting to see what they list as the plaintiff's name. If they use the new name, the first thing that I would do if I were Redd's attorney would be to file for a dismissal on the grounds that there legally is no such entity.
 
Trump Shared Clip Calling to Remove Kennedy Name From Kennedy Center

The segment Trump posted claimed Kennedy had been “elevated to obscene levels”
That would almost certainly be in violation of the law that named the center after Kennedy. It specifically states that the center is to be a memorial for Kennedy and the only such memorial in the District of Columbia. If the effect of removing Kennedy's name from it is to deny the namesake of the memorial (as opposed merely to polluting it) as mandated by law, then the legal case against Pres. Trump's attempt to rename the center for himself becomes so much more airtight.

If they go through with the lawsuit, and I'm not convinced that they will, it will be interesting to see what they list as the plaintiff's name. If they use the new name, the first thing that I would do if I were Redd's attorney would be to file for a dismissal on the grounds that there legally is no such entity.
That would almost certainly not matter. They could sue as The Kennedy Center d.b.a. the Trump-Kennedy Center.

I'm wondering if the argument could be made that the name change makes appearing there, or not, a political act. Political speech effectively and that therefore he has a 1A right not to be forced to make a political statement against his will.
I alluded to something like that when I offered the opinion that the prestige of the center was not so much in its having been named after Kennedy as in its value as a national performance venue regardless of its namesake. You could indeed argue that the renaming was intended as a political statement, and there is ample record to support this. And yes it could be argued that performing there would be considered an endorsement of such a political statement and that compulsory performance amounts to compulsory endorsement of a political message.

But again it comes down to trying to defend against the obvious, straightforward breach. You'd have to argue that the newly insinuated political endorsement actually exists and changes the value of the contract from the performer's perspective enough to warrant release from the obligation.
 
I'm wondering if the argument could be made that the name change makes appearing there, or not, a political act. Political speech effectively and that therefore he has a 1A right not to be forced to make a political statement against his will.
He isn't being forced to make a political statement against his will. You might note that they are not demanding that he actually perform there, nor is that even possible anymore since the performance date is already passed. The threatened lawsuit is to recover damages for failure to fulfill contractual obligations. The 1st amendment doesn't immunize you from contractual obligations.
 
He isn't being forced to make a political statement against his will. You might note that they are not demanding that he actually perform there, nor is that even possible anymore since the performance date is already passed. The threatened lawsuit is to recover damages for failure to fulfill contractual obligations. The 1st amendment doesn't immunize you from contractual obligations.

An unconstitutional contract can be enforced? Okay.
 

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