Merged Trump Fires Comey....

Spindrift said:
Candidate: So you fired the last guy for doing his job and placing loyalty to the Constitution ahead of personal loyalty to you?
Trump: Yes indeedy. He was terrible, absolutely terrible. The worst FBI director ever. I'm looking for someone to only investigate my enemies. I've got enough problems without the FBI putting their nose into my business. So what do you say?
Candidate: I'll get back to you.
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You left out the audible [click] when the candidate turns off the tape recorder on the way out of the room.
 
Skeptic Tank said:
Trump is, in many ways, a tone deaf, impulsive dimwit.

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if there is absolutely nothing to any of the Russia nonsense and his mindset is "because there's nothing to it, I'm sick of this and I don't understand how bad the optics of angrily trying to bring this all to a conclusion are, especially given that a lot of people don't know there's nothing to it."
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Skeptic Tank said:
Yeah, and I would wager that reason was a combination of it making him feel powerful to be able to fire the FBI director and him being irritated with the investigation drawing on. I think he got frustrated with the endless stuff about Russia and impulsively fired Comey because he thought of it as a way to lash out at the whole Russia narrative, throw his power around, and he stupidly thought the dems would not react like this because "they don't like Comey either" and thought this would be a freebie.

But I think all of that is entirely compatible with the Russia thing being 100% BS. Because Trump isn't restrained or calm enough to think to himself "there's nothing to this, and in time that will be revealed, or at least nothing particularly devastating to me can result from this because there's nothing to it. I'll just let them spin their wheels on this as long as they want to."
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You can think what you want. They may never be able to prove his wrongdoing or the full extent of it, but I'm fully convinced that there is something there.
 
Does Comey realize he will be in trouble by not disclosing this supposed obstruction of justice when it happened?
 
logger said:
Does Comey realize he will be in trouble by not disclosing this supposed obstruction of justice when it happened?
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Comey knows the law. He did disclose it. By writing the memo and sending it to others.
 
logger said:
No, he has to go a bit further than that. Maybe he thought it wasn't even close to obstruction, if the memo actually exists?
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The memo exists. It has been confirmed by multiple sources.

And your mistaken about his duties.
Legal experts say Comey’s allegation provides the strongest support yet for a criminal obstruction-of-justice case against Trump, though more evidence would probably be required to warrant action.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...b9e08e9b69b209cf2b84b/?utm_term=.cbcb065bf47b
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logger said:
Does Comey realize he will be in trouble by not disclosing this supposed obstruction of justice when it happened?
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Are you suggesting that failure to report obstruction violates some law or something? If so, what law?
 
acbytesla said:
The memo exists. It has been confirmed by multiple sources.

And your mistaken about his duties.
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He was in a particular bind since he believed (correctly) that making the conversation public would have influenced the ongoing investigation, and FBI directors are supposed to avoid that...though Comey's track record in this particular area is suspect, it's possible he had learned his lesson.
 
Babbylonian said:
He was in a particular bind since he believed (correctly) that making the conversation public would have influenced the ongoing investigation, and FBI directors are supposed to avoid that...though Comey's track record in this particular area is suspect, it's possible he had learned his lesson.
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Or the context in which Trump said it doesn't meet the definition of obstruction?
 
logger said:
Or the context in which Trump said it doesn't meet the definition of obstruction?
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Expressing any desire (beyond following the law) regarding a particular ongoing investigation by the FBI is at least inappropriate for a sitting President. Expressing the desire that the FBI director end the investigation is a clear attempt to obstruct justice given that the occupant of the Oval Office has the power to fire that person.
 
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logger said:
No, he has to go a bit further than that.
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Not if it's part of a larger investigation. Also, as a law enforcement officer, he's under no obligation to be truthful with suspects; when Trump asked if he was under investigation, Comey may have been shining him on to trip him up.
 
Babbylonian said:
He was in a particular bind since he believed (correctly) that making the conversation public would have influenced the ongoing investigation, and FBI directors are supposed to avoid that...though Comey's track record in this particular area is suspect, it's possible he had learned his lesson.
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I'd bet Trump talked to his stooge Sessions about his dinner discussion with Comey and Sessions stunned gave him some background on Comey and how he documents everything And that freaked Trump out. That might have played a role in Trump’s warning tweet to Comey that he better hope it wasn't taped.
 
Babbylonian said:
Expressing any desire (beyond following the law) regarding a particular ongoing investigation by the FBI is at least inappropriate for a sitting President. Expressing the desire that the FBI director end the investigation is a clear attempt to obstruct justice given that the occupant of the Oval Office has the power to fire that person.
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No, it's a bit more difficult to prove obstruction that that.
 
Resume said:
Not if it's part of a larger investigation. Also, as a law enforcement officer, he's under no obligation to be truthful with suspects; when Trump asked if he was under investigation, Comey may have been shining him on to trip him up.
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I'm not a lawyer, but the way he's presenting it now seems to hurt his case tremendously. If it was part of the larger case, why is it coming out now?
 
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