True skeptics are 'conspiracy theorists'

[AZCat]

Dear anti-conspiracists, do answer me this.

Do you believe the Warren Report. Or will you evade the issue and say you don't know. Come on have some balls, make a decision. Do you believe in the magic bullet or NOT. Would a government really kill its own and not just others outside its boundaries. When you find this out, then you will understand about conspiracies. Sometimes a group will sacrifice one or many of their own for their greater goals and then blame that killing or killings on the other side.

We have to get you from being so dumb and naive.

Answer NOW. Thanks.

And do not hem and haw and try to skirt the issue.

Answer honestly...

We have at least two threads here (one being http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75699) discussing a pseudo-simulation of the JFK assassination called JFK:Reloaded. Perhaps you'd like to peruse those and even try the sim yourself? It might be enlightening.

 

[KoihimeNakamura]

And..umm..
BElieve? I think it's more they agree with. You cannot 'believe' in a factual account. You can only agree.

In less related news, this is acutally the thread that inspired me to sign up - it's probaly a good idea to post in it.

 

[pandamonk]

The point DJJ is making here is that he or his family have had 20 personal enemies that "the Lord" has seen fit to extinguish from the face of the Earth, three of them at that school that wanted to require the kids to study that "suicide book". Am i correct so far, DJJ?

That's a lot of notches on the old Rod of Correction.

i don't know what crimes you consider these 20 people to have committed that would justify an early demise but i would love to hear it. i have a feeling, that like in the case of the school people, most of these were merely petty offenses but were extremely annoying to you.

I don't think he realises that EVERYBODY DIES!

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

Errrmm... None of them answered? Care to place a large bet on that one?

Well, for one, there were no interrogatives in DJJ's post.

 

[The Doc]

I came in here expecting a conspiracy theory discussion, but apparently there is a religious debate going on here...

Disappointing

 

[g4macdad]

And..umm..
BElieve? I think it's more they agree with. You cannot 'believe' in a factual account. You can only agree.

In less related news, this is acutally the thread that inspired me to sign up - it's probaly a good idea to post in it.

You can only agree with the facts, if you saw them with your own eyes. In any other case you have to believe.

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[KoihimeNakamura]

So. Do you agree your computer will work to post, or do you believe that the electronics are sound?

 

[g4macdad]

So. Do you agree your computer will work to post, or do you believe that the electronics are sound?

Did I see that it posted?

We are talking about the accounts of others.

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[KoihimeNakamura]

To clarify, professionals work on some facts, mostlycommon sense ones that we use to buiild things, such as compujters.

Now, to go back to the original idea. You do not need to believe in a set of facts if you examine it and agree with the evidence/facts. Becaue you made sure it was real and backed up.

 

[g4macdad]

To clarify, professionals work on some facts, mostlycommon sense ones that we use to buiild things, such as compujters.

Now, to go back to the original idea. You do not need to believe in a set of facts if you examine it and agree with the evidence/facts. Because you made sure it was real and backed up.

If you possess this ability to KNOW what is real without experiencing it. I think that you qualify for Randi's $1,000,000 prize. And you could solve all Court cases by yourself.

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[Foster Zygote]

You can only agree with the facts, if you saw them with your own eyes. In any other case you have to believe.

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But if you believe in something that you haven't, or can't, verify with supporting evidence how do you know you are correct? Why should I grant greater significance to what a Christian believes in over what a Hindu believes in? They both have the same lack of evidence to support their beliefs.

 

[g4macdad]

But if you believe in something that you haven't, or can't, verify with supporting evidence how do you know you are correct? Why should I grant greater significance to what a Christian believes in over what a Hindu believes in? They both have the same lack of evidence to support their beliefs.

Um, You don't. Hello?

Is this REALLY a new concept to you?

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BTW John Lee Hooker is the man. Have you ever heard Democrat Man?

 

[Paulhoff]

Paul

 

[NobbyNobbs]

If you possess this ability to KNOW what is real without experiencing it. I think that you qualify for Randi's $1,000,000 prize. And you could solve all Court cases by yourself.

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I know that Australia exists, although I have never been there.

Do I win the $1,000,000?

 

[g4macdad]

I know that Australia exists, although I have never been there.

Do I win the $1,000,000?

That would be between you and Randi.

I don't BELIEVE you though. =P

Do I KNOW you? =P

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[Brainache]

I know that Australia exists, although I have never been there.

Do I win the $1,000,000?

I live in Australia and I take Nobby Nobbs existence (and his membership of the human race) on faith. Although I have read about him and his exploits extensively.

 

[Foster Zygote]

Um, You don't. Hello?

Is this REALLY a new concept to you?

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BTW John Lee Hooker is the man. Have you ever heard Democrat Man?

Thanks for the patronizing answer to my rhetorical question. Now how about the following question: Of what value is the type of belief usually referred to as "faith" if two or more individuals can have beliefs that contradict one another?

 

[hellaeon]

70,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars and not even counting all the planets, and DJJ little so-called god is hung up on just one little planet.

Paul

Heh...but DJJ is so important! ask him! well, you dont have to...just listen!

 

[hellaeon]

I came in here expecting a conspiracy theory discussion, but apparently there is a religious debate going on here...

Disappointing

One could argue that religion is a conspiracy...
One could also argue its complete Rule 8'ing bollocks.

I tend to lean to the second one of my little theories myself.

 

[g4macdad]

Thanks for the patronizing answer to my rhetorical question. Now how about the following question: Of what value is the type of belief usually referred to as "faith" if two or more individuals can have beliefs that contradict one another?

Is that really rational?

All beliefs, religious or otherwise can have several contradicting sides.

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