True skeptics are 'conspiracy theorists'

I just gave an example of a true skeptic not believeing and receiving what the school system taught..... this thread is about the difference between true skeptics and false skeptics, and to this, you have truly proven my point. Thanks for the literal confirmations that false skeptics will fight true skeptics. Much appreciated. need I say more, as you have already confirmed my POINT.

Allow me to put it on-line for those after you.

I hate wasting time !!!
Oh? You have a POINT?
 
Paul if anyone has NO excuse for becoming a true skeptic rather than wallowing as a false skeptic, it has to be you. You fought in the VietNam war and yet can't see through these new wars for oil... Paul, are you sure you weren;t shell shocked so you lost all perspective, and now just continue to follow orders.

Dumb sheep for the slaughter...as mentioned until they wake up, I hope you do Bro...as at least once in your life you did realise the deceptions of those that control government and try to control out lives.

While there is life, there is hope...
Hey, you disrespectful moron, want to try that with me, as well? I was in the Navy from '73 to '87. Never was in combat, so you can't pull the "shell-shocked" BS with me. Much as you'd like to believe, no one is giving me orders to follow.

Still waiting to see what your answer is; are you a liar or a coward?

I know what I think, just want you to confirm it.

Come on, be a man for once in your life. Know it's hard for you, since no one has ever had any expectations of you, and you always turn tail and run anytime things get a little difficult.

I'll still be here, when you're ready to answer.
 
Paul if anyone has NO excuse for becoming a true skeptic rather than wallowing as a false skeptic, it has to be you. You fought in the VietNam war and yet can't see through these new wars for oil... Paul, are you sure you weren;t shell shocked so you lost all perspective, and now just continue to follow orders.

Dumb sheep for the slaughter...as mentioned until they wake up, I hope you do Bro...as at least once in your life you did realise the deceptions of those that control government and try to control out lives.

While there is life, there is hope...

Really?

Yet these dumb sheep protect you 24 hours a day 7 day a week. They protect your shores; they provide you with safety and security.

These dumb sheep are not there for idiots like you to mock them, they are there for a purpose, to protect the very freedom that you take for granted. The very freedom you use to belittle them.

I rarely get annoyed at individuals post but with yours I will make an exception. It was idiots like you that spat upon returning soldiers from foreign war; it is idiots like you that spit on your nations flag. You are a desecrator of graves; you desecrate the graves of every single service man and women who laid down their life for you.

Screw you, you insignificant little prick, I too was in the military, and you dare to have a go at me and my friends, you dare to call me a dumb sheep. You sir are a coward, a complete and utter coward who would not dare to fight for what you believe in,you prefer to belittle you own military, you prefer to call them dumb sheep.

Please post no more, you make me sick.
 
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That he still believes that the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq can be simplified down to "wars for oil" just shows how out of touch with reality this guy is.

Perhaps he should consider going back to school a bit rather than slamming it. They have these crazy courses in this thing called "economics" and you don't even have to swear allegiance to the one world government to take them. Honest.
 
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Really?

Yet these dumb sheep protect you 24 hours a day 7 day a week. They protect your shores; they provide you with safety and security. (And yet you don;t give the Lord credit...and worship and serve a nation that loves war)

These dumb sheep are not there for idiots like you to mock them, they are there for a purpose, to protect the very freedom that you take for granted. The very freedom you use to belittle them. (And take away our freedoms by false terrorism acts, and use those acts to make war on other countries so they can steal their resources)

I rarely get annoyed at individuals post but with yours I will make an exception. It was idiots like you that spat upon returning soldiers from foreign war; (No that encouraged them to return home, and keep their lives and keep from hurting other countries citizens and soldiers) it is idiots like you that spit on your nations flag. (No I disregard flags and patriotism and extreme nationalism because it is unChristian and kills )
You are a desecrator of graves; (No a lover of life) you desecrate the graves of every single service man and women who laid down their life for you. (NO I honour them by saying they should not all have died in vain. and have been lambs for the slaughter))

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/TheLordisnotnationalistic.html

Screw you, you insignificant little prick, I too was in the military, and you dare to have a go at me and my friends, you dare to call me a dumb sheep. (If you favour war over respect and sharing, so be it, you label yourself) You sir are a coward, a complete and utter coward who would not dare to fight for what you believe in,you prefer to belittle you own military, you prefer to call them dumb sheep. (I fought and have been fighting to save lives. You sir just threaten, and you are the type that persecute which is why I won't give my personal information, as false skeptics and nationalists and patriots group into mobs and carry out the most atrocious acts, all under the approval of their governments , military and churches. Thank you for proving my point. Much appreciated !!!)

Please post no more, you make me sick.
(For now, it is still a partially free country, whetre we can still debate the conspiracies and anger that lead to war, so we can still save some lives, even though we are threatening with persecution and more by those that refuse to look into conspiracies. WHY, because they love their group, they are groupies without brains, that love nationalism and waving their flag, because they think they are the greatest and BEST and toughest...and yet there is ONE much much greater than they.)
 
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Hmm....

I wonder if Mr. Jordan would have preferred it if Hitler, Tojo, and Mussolini had won World War II?

They were stopped from doing so and imposing an even greater reign of mass murder at the cost of millions of lives, many of them soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines of a variety of nations.

Including Canada, in the Atlantic, at Dieppe, Hong Kong, Sicily, Ortona, Cassino, Normandy, Falaise, Boulogne, Walcheren, the Gothic Line, the Scheldt, and the Reichswald.

What do they count for?

And what do you think of the Nazis and the Holocaust?

Bigger question...given that you believe the Earth is hollow, why should I care?
 
And yet you don;t give the Lord credit...and worship and serve a nation that loves war
Really? Yet I am not even from the US, I have debated furiously against the Iraq war, on other forums. I personally got of my arse and went out and protested against the Iraq war, so exactly how does this one work then?

Or is this yet another form of generalization, whereby it gives you the right to belittle the military, it gives you the right to label them all dumb sheep.
And take away our freedoms by false terrorism acts, and use those acts to make war on other countries so they can steal their resources
Really? so what freedoms have you lost then? Please make an extensive list of exactly all the personnel freedoms you have lost to the nasty military.

Could you say exactly how you would counter the terrorist threat? Which branches of the armed services would you like to see disbanded, disarmed?
Please list all the counter terrorist organizations you would like to see gone.
No that encouraged them to return home, and keep their lives and keep from hurting other countries citizens and soldiers
Really? So why are you calling them dumb sheep then? Why are you suddenly back peddling? They are just dumb sheep are they not? Why do you suddenly want them home?

Surely if they come home they will just set about persecuting you will they not, after all you have just said they are there to take away your liberties and freedoms, so why not leave the dumb sheep where they are, far away from you?
No a lover of life
Your own of course, you don’t give a damm about the military you have labeled as dumb sheep. Not really concerned about the people that have laid down their lives for you, that is just incidental is it not? it is simply beside the point is it not?

Why would you care about dumb sheep? They are just dumb animals, what does it matter to you?
NO I honour them by saying they should not all have died in vain. and have been lambs for the slaughter
NO you do not, you dishonor them, and you piss on them. You believe they are inhuman, they are animals. You dishonor these people and you know you do and now you are desperately trying to back peddle because you have caused offense. Rather than admit it and say sorry, you are trying desperately to put the blame elsewhere. You are trying to blame me, for your repugnant and highly offensive remarks. I will not take the blame for your stupid childish remarks nor will I back down for calling you out on making such remarks. They did not die in vain, they died for you, you idiot, they laid down their lifes so you could spew crap about them onto the net. Feel proud do you? Get you off saying that service men and women died for nothing?
If you favour war over respect and sharing, so be it, you label yourself.

I do not favor war other anything, again you have made a sweeping and generalizing remark. I support our troops, I see them as people, with families, with loved one, with the same concerns I or you have. The same love for life I have, I consider those I met in the military my greatest friends, live long friends who I care for. They are not, as you would label them dumb sheep.
[COLOR=black][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I fought and have been fighting to save lives. You sir just threaten, and you are the type that persecute which is why I won't give my personal information, as false skeptics and nationalists and patriots group into mobs and carry out the most atrocious acts, all under the approval of their governments , military and churches. Talk you for provem my point. Much appreciated

You have never fought, you are a liar, you preach, you like to think that you are able to cast judgment on those who you deem inferior.

I have always and will always condemn individual acts of butchery and individual war crimes. I would never stand shoulder to shoulder with any individual that does such things, whether they are an AL Qaeda terrorist or a UK solider. I would roundly comdenm such dreadful actions. But you would not, you would see these acts as the whole and as such label the entire military butchers.
Thank you has proved my point.
For now, it is still a partially free country, whetre we can still debate the conspiracies and anger that lead to war, so we can still save some lives, even though we are threatening with persecution and more by those that refuse to look into conspiracies. WHY, because they love their group, they are groupies without brains, that love nationalism and waving their flag, because they think they are the greatest and BEST and toughest...and yet there is ONE much much greater than they
The freedom you enjoy has been bought and paid for by those dumb sheep who laid down their lives for you. Those people who you insult. Again you insult them by now calling them brainless.
You have this stupid ¨on ward Christian soldier¨ mentality where by all those in the military are brainless, mindless sheep and you have neither the balls nor the courage to do anything about it, other that belittle honest decent people.

You are pathetic.

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Indeed. Indeed. He is some piece of work.

Like I've always said, the only thing worse than an blind, irrational, soulless ideologue is an arrogant blind, irrational soulless ideologue.
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Aha, i can finally post. I've been following this thread for a few days, but have been having some issues registering.

Anyway, i was directed here by DJJ from LibChrist and agree wholeheartedly with everything you say about him.

I'm surprised he hasn't actually directed you to his "prove it" essay from his website www geocities com/davidjayjordan/Proveit.html

Anyway I'll post again later.

Lee
 
Aha, i can finally post. I've been following this thread for a few days, but have been having some issues registering.

Anyway, i was directed here by DJJ from LibChrist and agree wholeheartedly with everything you say about him.

I'm surprised he hasn't actually directed you to his "prove it" essay from his website www geocities com/davidjayjordan/Proveit.html

Actually, he did mention that in his "432 is magical" thread, I believe. You can read it here, if you're so inclined.
 
My name is John Hunter. I live in Bridgeport, Connecticut. I work for a medical practice. You can e-mail me at [email protected]. If you would like to speak to me directly, PM me and I will give you my telephone number.

I have no fear of putting my name on the Internet, because I am very much a "small fry" in debunking circles. No one would bother to annoy me for my views. Others here are doctors, lawyers, scientists; these people understandably (and properly, in my view) withhold their information so that they can separate their profession from their debunking hobby.
 
And how do we know you were only a student, and not part of the attack.......... and the boss too, the plot thickens.........

Since you obviously are government SHILLS (is it SHILS?), a non-us newcommer to the forum can use this opportunity to aks, what is a Shill/shills?? Do you get good pay? Can I become one? Do you have cool suits like those guys in MiB?

But seriously, I do wonder.

Keep up the good work! :D
 
Since you obviously are government SHILLS (is it SHILS?), a non-us newcommer to the forum can use this opportunity to aks, what is a Shill/shills?? Do you get good pay? Can I become one? Do you have cool suits like those guys in MiB?

Ask Gravy, he's our king. :)
 
Welcome aboard!

Since you obviously are government SHILLS (is it SHILS?), a non-us newcommer to the forum can use this opportunity to aks, what is a Shill/shills?? Do you get good pay? Can I become one? Do you have cool suits like those guys in MiB?

But seriously, I do wonder.

Keep up the good work! :D

It's not hard to become a government shill, but there aren't any good suits.

And pay...that depends on your level of shillery. It's like that chat with the Navy recruiter...they promise excitement and adventure, and you wind up cleaning toilets.

I became a shill because they promised me that if I voted for Arnold Schwarzenegger, I would get a weekend in a Bahamas hotel with the co-star of my choice from one of his movies. Visions of choosing between Sharon Stone, Rae Dawn Chong, Rachel Ticotin, Vanessa Williams, Jamie Lee Curtis, and Tia Carrere danced through my head, and I accepted. But I never got the girl, and now I'm trapped for life asa government shill. :D
 
Who to hell here worships a government, or is it that you don't know what the word worship means.

And DJJ you have way toooo much fear in your heart and why are you afraid of dogs.

Paul

:) :) :)

Paul, usually the best defense is a good offense, but in your case you have no defense against what you fear the most, your government and hence you have to honour it and obey it, and believe they love you and have your best interests at heart. You worship the system, the world and that religious belief you hope will save you.

Sorry Bro, you have to understand this to get out of its congregation and to stop believing its dogma that will detsory your body and your soul
 
False skepticism

Because this site has been an eye opener, on how principles can be absolutely switched around, in turning a good principle like skepticism and thinking into false skepticism and non thinking.

Alllow me first to give you the true skeptic, the true searcher from one of the prophets..

From the book of Isaiah

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Jer 1:9¶Then the LORD put forth his hand, and touched my mouth. And the LORD said unto me, Behold, I have put my words in thy mouth.
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Jer 1:10¶See, I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms, to root out, and to pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build, and to plant.



For Isaiah was instructed not just to tear down and rip up the false principles, but to BUILD and to Plant.

As a true skeptic, he had to find the truth, destory the lies of the system, before he could BUILD and PLANT.

Anarchists destroy everything for they like false skeptics have no idea how to build and pl;ant because they have no values except the worldly ones that countries have indocrinated them with. They are nationalists, patriots flagging their flags, they are professors who's very lives depend on them agreeing with the doctrine of their masters, the government. These are sheep to the slaughter that have no reason, or logic, or stability for they have no discernment and they swallow every conspiracy and lie given to them. They can NOT build and plant, because they have no principles, no standards, no values. They believe in nothing as their only pride is destruction and their false skepticism.
 

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