True skeptics are 'conspiracy theorists'

[Davidjayjordan]

As mentioned which of you complainers, whiners and whimps have written something and stood behind it, on this board. I surely would like to see just ONE of you stand for something rather than all of you stand for nothing.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Please verify your supposed claims of being manly and independant and strong rather than just a pack of groupies.

I like real skeptics not the false ones. I like people with courage and strength of mind and heart. I don;t see your names anywhere as starting any thread. have you not found one truth to which base one topic thread on..

 

[Alareth]

Please give an honest answer to questions asked of you rather than pompous rhetoric.

 

[beachnut]

This just hit me. When i was growing up, being wet behind the ears was "naive", and so was just being "green" (or new). Reminded me of Biff in Back To the Future with his "why don't you make like a tree and get outta here."

How is one "green" behind the ears? What does that mean? i thought it might be a regional expression i was unfamiliar with but it still made no sense to me about how something green could get behind the ears without rolling in wet grass.

i Googled the expressions and came up with this: Clixed Miches.

http://www.thepublicpress.com/people/SM/writings/ClixedMiches.htm

When he said naive, saying "green behind the ears" is the same.

But "green behind the ears" is a phrase in the US. Not sure the origin but it could be as in not ripe, apples are green before red. Like other things. (except green apples)

But it passes as naive. But then he did give it some BIFF stink by saying naive 5 or 6 different ways.

But the "green behind the ears" is a way to say naive. He repeated it a few times in many forms. As have I.

darn, just like Biff - in a dumb way

 

[gumboot]

You're not even trying. You can read all threads posted by any given person simply by clicking through their profile. Pathetic.

For example I know you have started six threads.

Here's some started by myself.

The NORAD 9/11 Response

The NORAD Response Revisited

Evidence of a Pancake collapse of WTC1

Alex Jones' "TerrorStorm"

War for Oil in Afghanistan

Are Terrorists the Pirates of the Middle East?

Molten Steel in WTC

Obsession and the "Protocols of Islam"

-Gumboot

 

[twinstead]

As mentioned which of you complainers, whiners and whimps have written something and stood behind it, on this board. I surely would like to see just ONE of you stand for something rather than all of you stand for nothing.

Believe me there is no honor in standing behind a false accusation of mass murder, and certainly no special high-five necessary for being brave enough to post in web forums. In case you haven't noticed, this isn't the real world.

Get over yourself

 

[JimBenArm]

No, I was threatened by an official over the phone, got a lawyer, and found out it had to be taped, and yet was also threatened in person after a meeting.

The deceivers hate to answer questions, and therefore just threaten.

The public has a right to ask, but they have a right NOT to answer and just go on with a public meeting even if broadcast life on the public station.

Ah, I see. We're the cowards who won't post something the crowd goes along with, yet you get a threat over a mysterious book that you won't identify, and probably only exists in your imagination, and scurry off to the Phillipines like a wussy.

Who's the coward?

 

[Paulhoff]

It is the old, “If you not for me you’re against me”, BS. Since when does mean that in order to be a skeptic that you have to throw out all your logical thinking and experience. Have you ever seen the shows on TV about bombing a building and how long it takes, and all the work that goes in to soften up the building for demolition, something that takes weeks and is very visible. And never on the scale of the Twin Towers has it been done. The man power would most likely be great, and where are you going to get that many skilled people who would assassin so many people, and kept is secret. It will not happen, keeping that kind of secret will not happen, not with that many people.

Paul



So has anyone see reports of hundreds of demolition people dieing left and right.

 

[Myriad]

At first I thought the terrible pro-suicide story would turn out to be some literary classic (Romeo and Juliet, perhaps) that DJJ decided to take exception to.

But now I'm wondering if it was actually something written by another student, appearing in a collection of students' works printed by the school.

Whatever it was, we're talking about 12th graders, seniors, here, right? People 17 and 18 years old? People who are, or will be within a matter of months, considered old enough to enlist (or, theoretically, be inducted) in the armed forces and go into combat? People who will soon be in college writing critical papers on Swift's "A Modest Proposal" or De Sade's Salo? People who for the most part choose for themselves, outside of school, what novels they read, what Web sites they visit, and what movies they see?

The latter might perhaps include M*A*S*H, a film from 36 years ago with the following theme song (written by a 14-year-old):

Through early morning fog I see
Visions of the things to be,
The pains that are withheld for me,
I realize and I can see...

That suicide is painless,
It brings on many changes
And I can take or leave it if I please.

The game of life is hard to play,
I'm going to loose it anyway,
The loosin' card I'll someday lay;
So this is all I have to say...

That suicide is painless,
It brings on many changes
And I can take or leave it if I please.

The only way to win is cheat
And lay it down before I'm beat
And to another give my seat
For that's the only painless feat.

That suicide is painless,
It brings on many changes
And I can take or leave it if I please.
And you can do the same thing if you please.

Copyright (C) 1970 by Twentieth Century-Fox Music Corporation​

... though probably not, because they're more likely to be out watching Saw III and Hannibal Rising instead.

What horror, that these innocent young lambs might be exposed to a print story (or essay, or whatever the heck DJJ is talking about) advocating suicide!

Yep, that kind of stuff is a sure sign of a decadent decaying society. Shakespeare wrote:

Yea, noise? then I'll be brief. O happy dagger!
Snatching ROMEO's dagger

This is thy sheath;
Stabs herself

there rust, and let me die.
Falls on ROMEO's body, and dies​

...and in the ~410 years since then, it's been all downhill.

Respectfully,
Myriad

 

[Athyrio]

You guys are so naive, so green behind the ears, s trusting and believeing, and so gulliable to swallow whatever lies are sent your way.

This coming from one who believes David Blaine has magical powers.

 

[Gravy]

As mentioned which of you complainers, whiners and whimps have written something and stood behind it, on this board. I surely would like to see just ONE of you stand for something rather than all of you stand for nothing.

Ha! I've been banned from Austria, Germany, and Switzerland, for writing and standing behind my book about overcoming the world's worst charley-horse while hiking in the Alps.

The book is called "Mein Crampf."

Put that in your Alpenhorn and blow it, Djj!

​

 

[jsfisher]

The deceivers hate to answer questions, and therefore just threaten.

Was anyone looking for the definition of irony?

 

[Horatius]

Essays of the Future

The author was from Toronto, but because he was a so called renowned columnist from the Toronto Star, they deemed him sancrosanct, even though he was promoting suicide in the future, that could be done in the present by those who are forward thinking.

Could I have found it?

Dateline: Toronto, the Complete Toronto Star Dispatches, 1920-1924

In "A Free Shave" Hemingway parodies his own future work as he describes a visit to the barber college which "requires the cold, naked valor of the man who walks clear-eyed to death...."
"I said, `I'm going upstairs.' Upstairs is where the free work is done by the beginners.
A hush fell over the shop. `He's going upstairs'..."

 

[Horatius]

Attorney General, provincial attorney general, Superintendant of schools, Minister of education, three mayors, and Provincial Prime Minister. The only one that didn't write back Prince Charles....

Okay, this might fall under the category of "Talking to Americans", but I really don't think an educated Canadian would ever refer to a "Provincial Prime Minister". Such an office doesn't exist. They are "Premiers".

And why would you expect Prince Charles to get involved in a local eduaction dispute? That's even less likely than Prince Charles accepting my Uncle's invitation to attend a joint birthday party for both of them in Alberta, just because they share the same birthday*. Amusing concept, but not very likely to occur.



*And, based on this event, I'd expect you to get at least a letter back from Charles' secretary. My Uncle did. The Prince appreciated the invitation, but alas had already made plans for that day

 

[gnome]

No, I was threatened by an official over the phone, got a lawyer, and found out it had to be taped, and yet was also threatened in person after a meeting.

The deceivers hate to answer questions, and therefore just threaten.

The public has a right to ask, but they have a right NOT to answer and just go on with a public meeting even if broadcast life on the public station.

This isn't doing much to explain why you can't give title and author. Give us some checkable details and if we find out the same thing that you found out, we'll likely be just as outraged.

 

[gnome]

As mentioned which of you complainers, whiners and whimps have written something and stood behind it, on this board. I surely would like to see just ONE of you stand for something rather than all of you stand for nothing.

Here's some things I can stand behind.

Well, I believe in the soul, ...the small of a woman's back, the hangin' curveball, high fibre, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve, and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days.

Except for the Susan Sontag part, haven't read them myself.

Also check here for the passage by Robert Ingersoll: (perhaps some kind person will show me how to isolate that text)

http://www.randi.org/jr/082903.html

 

[Davidjayjordan]

You're not even trying. You can read all threads posted by any given person simply by clicking through their profile. Pathetic.

For example I know you have started six threads.

Here's some started by myself.

The NORAD 9/11 Response

The NORAD Response Revisited

Evidence of a Pancake collapse of WTC1

Alex Jones' "TerrorStorm"

War for Oil in Afghanistan

Are Terrorists the Pirates of the Middle East?

Molten Steel in WTC

Obsession and the "Protocols of Islam"

-Gumboot

Good work Gumboot... !!!!!!!!!!

Haven;t read them all, just seen the titles, which probably classifies you as bold and brave and probably a true skeptic.. Good on ya !!!

 

[Kiwiwriter]

Suicide is painless....

You know, 30 years ago, back in my Creative Writing class in high school, our teacher decided to stretch our writing ability by having us all write suicide notes. Which we read out loud, in class, for class critique. Some were serious, some were funny.

All were cathartic and relieved the tension and idiocy of teenage years...the physical changes...the pressure to excel...the pressure to be popular...the pressures of oncoming adulthood and the indecision over whether to embrace it or delay it...the issues of drugs, sex, and booze...the pressure of college applications...the absurdity of our other teachers...the endless waiting for something to happen...and above all, the outrage of having to pay adult prices for things but not being allowed into "adult" events and entertainment.

We laughed, we cried, we discussed the notes, we got our grades, and we moved on. Nobody committed suicide. Nobody complained that our teacher was having us do this assignment. Our principal and assistant principals didn't care. And we're all still here today, and some of us are still making a living from writing.

So I don't see the problem here. It was a good way to stretch our creative juices and minds, and to cope with stress.

That teacher's name, by the way, was Frank McCourt. He went on to win the Pulitzer Prize for Angela's Ashes, and become a literary icon, and still one of my literary mentors.

So I'll take Frank McCourt and his ideas over Mr. Jordan's incomprehensible paranoia any day.

And that's all I have to say about that.

 

[Matthew Best]

Wait - you can only be considered a skeptic if you start threads now?

Damn.

 

[Horatius]

Wait - you can only be considered a skeptic if you start threads now?

Damn.

That's right, and that's why the rest of us pseudo-skeptics are going to start using "Thread-Starter!" as an all-purpose insult.

Got to keep quashing that dissent, you know