Troofers Now Faking Evidence

Another missive from Mr Doherty:

Listen Maccy, ive been very patient but what happened today has changed that. I am giving the creep who stole my account at Loose Change one hour to go and do the decent thing and admit it like a man. If the sicko remains a coward then im afraid there will be no stepping from the computer. I aint [rule8]ing about anymore.
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http://screwloosechange.xbehome.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=1486&view=findpost&p=12000

Inter-board communication:

Paul,

I'm being absolutely serious here because I'm concerned for you mental wellbeing. If somebody did hack your accounts, you should let it go, really it's a pointless vendetta that's only going to cause you anguish. I'd be surprised if they actually broke any laws, or if they were in the UK. If they really hacked your bank account then why not ask the bank to investigate? It's possible that a bank could persuade an ISP to ditch someone who did this, even if they were outside the UK.

If you're just making all this up, then please walk away from this and seek professional help. Only you know what is really going on in your head, please be honest with yourself.
 
Because I know that Paul is reading here as well:

Oh and I also want my account here that was stolen.

The jrefers have been very busy:

911blogger
Blogger.com
Photobucket
Politicalcrossfire
Loosechange

Thats just a sample of my accounts that the criminal identity stealers at jref have taken. Id like them back. OR ELSE

No idle threat
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Paul,

If you contact the administrators of those boards you should be able to get them to reset the passwords on the accounts and email them to the email address you set up the account with.

If you continue to post stupid threats then I will conclude that you're lying about the whole thing and trying to make yourself look like a victim. I suspect a lot of other people will agree with me.

Really, step back and think about what you're doing to yourself with all of this.

Maccy
 
One Last too-and-fro

PDoherty pretending to be me said:
Maccy I am of entirely sound mind. I have been banned at Loose Change, where they believe I posted the ready room over the internet. I will not let this go. It wont interfere with my life, I promise. Only takes a few minutes to ruin reputations, as you well know.
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Paul,

You don't seem especially sane to me, but it's your call. I don't think your rather obvious attempt to imitate me has had any effect on my reputation at all.

Regarding Loose Change, you should email Dylan and ask him to check the IP addresses. In fact, you should have done that from the start instead of creating a new account and being a drama queen about the whole thing. If you don't get a satisfactory reply, take it up with Invision directly. Again, if they find the IP address of the person who hacked your account, they may be able to pass this to you, or to take it up with that person's ISP. Obviously, it gets much harder if there are proxies involved.

There's lots you can do here to sort all of this out. The fact that you are whining about it on message boards instead suggests to me that you just want attention. Furthermore, it makes me think that you accounts were not hacked at all, and you're just lying again.
 
More Doherty (from http://screwloosechange.xbehome.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=1486&view=findpost&p=12012 )

Maccy I have tried emailing loose change, they wont reply.
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As I said before, take it up directly with Invision.

I also cannot confirm my email for the accounts because the criminal jrefer involved changed my email inside the accounts. Only this despicable creepy stalker can give me the accounts back.
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I don't believe you. Most systems require you to confirm an email address change my clicking on a link in an email sent to your old address. Even if they don't there's no reason why the administrators of the system can't reset the account to the email address you used when you created it - and send a new password there.

Produce him, or else
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What makes you think I know who this person is?

Probable answer: nothing, because they don't exist.

also this:

Right you have had plenty of opportunities. I am already in dispute with jref who refuse to delete the photo you stole.

I will say goodbye, for now. I have a call to make. I wonder if my friend has done any hacking lately
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http://screwloosechange.xbehome.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=1486&view=findpost&p=12016

I didn't steal any photo. You seem to be confusing JREF with the members of its forums - who are all individuals.

I should let you know that I used to work for your Internet Service Provider (in fact, I probably built the equipment you are using to connect to the Internet) - this means I have pretty good access to their abuse department.

However, I suspect your hacker friend is just a figment of your imagination.

ETA:

And PDoherty edits his second "I'm going to hack you" post to simply read: Edited lol

Somebody got a screengrab first, though: http://screwloosechange.xbehome.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=1486&view=findpost&p=12031

Paul,

If you're genuine, take it up with the relevant administrators of your accounts. All these idle threats just make you look like a tool.

Final Edit:

At last some sanity:

Maccy you have a point. I will not risk trouble for myself or keep up a pointless feud with the whole of jref. I will report it to the relevent people and see if it can be traced.
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Good on you Paul.

For the record, my use of PD'oh was always a Simpsons reference. I've never meant to imply you were a paedophile - why would I? Anyway, from now on I'll use you full username - I don't want you thinking I'd make such an accusation.
 
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Alt+F4 said:
The NWO villians spent that 8 hours trying to find an open Staples so they could get a paper shredder to destroy all that incriminating evidence in WTC 7. When no paper shredder could be obtained they decided to destroy the building instead.

So remember next time you can't find a parking spot, go to plan B: blow up your car.
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<wipe cheap wine off screen>
Somebody really should put together a book of "great laughs at JRef"
Thanks!
</wipe cheap wine off screen>
 
<snip.
a month of research turned up the name of a reoporter I knew I could trust, a man with integrity. He works at a major newspaper here in the US
</snip>
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Wasn't Christopher Bollyn fired from AFP?
 
emotionally unstable and suffering from low self-esteem, roxdog begs for callers

GlennB said:
PoxFrog's only line of argument (apart from plain abuse) is "Wanna come on my show?", so I'd guess he's short of guests and is spamming for trade.
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Yep, the dumb kid suffers from extremely low self-esteem. Notice how he kept repeating that he has a 'show' [insert finger quotation marks] as if that meant anything. A pseudo show on the Internet with single-digit listeners that anyone with a microphone and a dial-up connection could duplicate is not something to brag about. He mentions the 'show' because he thinks it makes him 'better' than you. He does this because he doesn't like what he sees in the mirror every day.

You'll find this sort of deeply disturbed individual around any popular conspiracy theory. The JFK assassination is filled to the rafters with nuts seeking attention for their latest bizarre theory. The driver shot Kennedy?

Roxdog bears a special hatred for those that have accomplished anything of value in the conspiracy world and don't praise his kindergarten-level efforts. Speaking personally, I have been interviewed on a patriot radio show and spoken at a major conference. All of this was at the invitation of the individuals running the show. I did not ask or even suggest that I should be invited. Roxdog bears a psychotic (homosexually-repressed?) anger toward me because he spends 25 hours every day trying to promote himself to anyone that will listen and has accomplished little more than nothing.

You'll notice his venom aimed at both 'Marks' because they have been recognized for the quality of their efforts without having to beg and plead for attention. His 'show' and related ramblings on various forums fill the deep void in his very soul. If he ever stopped, he would probably commit suicide.

***Special plea to roxdog***​

SERIOUSLY, please do not kill yourself. Even with your low self-esteem and self-hatred, you are still a human being and have value.
 
MarkyX said:
Dylan decided to use this letter as an attack against me.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=3527

He won't mention the email address though, like I don't know what it is :rolleyes: And before anyone asked, yes I did get this email.
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The story sounds fake; how can he be outside, in the basement with melting steel etc, etc, etc.

Sounds fake to me.

How can someone who can barely breath during the towers falling not dead by 5 pm! After being dusted by the fall of the Towers he is around at 5 pm to see flashes of WTC7 squibs with the silent explosives and no debris blast? Liar. If he could not breath he was taken away and treated for dust that morning. Fake stuff.

This is the biggest fake I have seen yet.

If I am wrong I will drink 10 cases of beer!

Dylan is such a dolt to believe this is real. Read Dylan, it is fake. Read, you should be able to read. Give it to killtown and roxdog they can help you read. oops they are not good at reading either. I was wrong.

Here is the real kicker - biased political rant -
Trust me, I'd much rather believe the official story. I'd also rather believe that Columbus discovered America and DIDN'T torture and murder the natives he encountered on the way here. But history had a 2nd Edition to that story. I can't wait for the Final Cut.
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How does he know the buildings were rigged? Who are the hundreds that know? Fake like Dylan. Someone has "pulled" Dylans chain! Dumb Dylan is hit by a fake email and uses it as proof of what? I bet someone set him up! Fess up.

What is this? Just another nut case playing up to Dylan? Good job Dylan the supreme leader of the pack of nuts called LC and LCF.

This letter is fake just like Dylan and any rational thoughts roxdog may have. I wonder if roxdog did the letter. Maybe pdoh did it. Does anyone think there is anyone who has practical knowledge of 9/11 from the LC believers?
 
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MarkyX said:
Dylan decided to use this letter as an attack against me.

He won't mention the email address though, like I don't know what it is :rolleyes: And before anyone asked, yes I did get this email.
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... and?

Were you- like Dylan- able to "verify it's from NJ"?
 
Fingerprints on the Evidence

The most obvious reason the "letter" is a fake is that nobody but a conspiracy liar talks about buildings being "pulled." It's phony term invented by frauds.
 
MarkyX said:
Yep, and a lot more. Dylan isn't the only one who can use email headers.
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<salivating>

And you're going to gather evidence, present an irrefutable rebuttal, and expose the originator of the email as a fraud! Furthermore, you're going to show that Dylan should have been suspicious- if not was completely aware of- the fraudulent nature of this email?

</salivating>

Come on. We all know it's coming.

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Eh I wouldn't go that far, unless a legal actions somehow takes place. This is along the same lines as an anonymous threat: A lot of words with no substance.

I'll let the email stay. If anything, it will expose Dylan as an extremely guilable person who believes anything that "hurts" debunkers without any burdern of proof.

What really annoys me about the letter is it completely goes against everything on that day. He was somehow survived in the towers, then he makes his way to the WTC7. There was a countdown on the radio and on the bullhorn...

Yet, not a single media person mentions this. Not even a single citizen says anything about the bullhorn. In other words, thousands upon thousands of both citizens and authority figures are either stupid or part of the coverup. However, this anonymous EMT from NJ is the only person to come forward and comfront "the evil white Canadian debunker", telling me a story that no one else has said. Heck, not even the recent First Responders that "come out", five years later, to directly respond to testimonies by Chief Daniel Nigro, has mentioned ANYTING about these bullhorns and "countdown over the radio"

I would be not all that surprised if this supposed be some PR stunt for Dylan Avery for his upcoming fictional film. For a movie that takes firefighters out of context and the producers even say the firefighters were "paid off", this EMT is quite supportive.
 
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What did happen was that the NYFD pushed the onlookers back from WTC 7 when they determined that it may fall. They made sure everyone was at least as far away from the building as it is tall.

The part about 'pulling' the building is an outright fallacy.
 
MarkyX said:
Eh I wouldn't go that far, unless a legal actions somehow takes place. This is along the same lines as an anonymous threat: A lot of words with no substance.
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Let them bring it! Your legal aid will be GIGANTIC! This letter is BS! Why would anyone send it to Do Over? At this stage in the game is too suspect.
Do Over is a sham!



PS
I know the BEST legal fcuker's!
 
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