Treasury Secretary Paulson Arrested

Thank you for that completely objective, unbiased account, Skeptigirl!

The Republicans are clearly wrong for Us, Wrong for Our Children, and Wrong for America. Please vote Democrat in 2008.

Thank you.
 
Can I suggest that somebody starts a new Karpinski thread?

Also, it should probably be in politics - as I don't think it really counts as a Conspiracy Theory.
 
maccy said:
Can I suggest that somebody starts a new Karpinski thread?

Also, it should probably be in politics - as I don't think it really counts as a Conspiracy Theory.
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Been there, done that in Politics long ago. Maybe skeptigirl should bump that thread if she really wants to discuss it.
 
I'm content with the one post. I was just responding to the unsubstantiated claims about Karpinski in this thread.

Maybe if I have time later I'll look at it. If there is a particular post with a citation supporting those unsubstantiated claims, feel free to link to the post.
 
JamesB said:
Hell no, the first rule of conspiracy theorists, never admit you are wrong. Now he is saying Paulson fled to Israel (got to involved those Jews somehow). Hilariously, he is now accusing Greg Szymanski of lying about this.
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Thats what I hate about the "alternative" media...no accountability. You get Larry King saying this shaite, and proven wrong he would either lose his job or haev to make a public apology. These guys, they just make up more shaite to excuse the first crap they post...disgusting.

TAM
 
You definition/division "alternative media" does not describe the news validity continuum. Some Internet news is very trustworthy and I can't see you put Fox News into your "alternative media" category. Maybe you meant to include it? They haven't been exactly accountable. The NY Times was sort of accountable when they fired Judy Miller for filing false stories but I doubt the Times did a good job apologizing and retracting all the erroneous information they published during the pre-Iraq War period when most of the mainstream news outlets were negligent.

I agree this is a different sort of lack of accountability, but as I noted already, many skeptics are not skeptical enough about the current news quality in the USA.
 
I tend not to sweat the small stuff. The MSM tends to get in a lot of crap when they get the big stuff wrong, but not the AM. No, they hide behind their "smallness" hoping noone will notice as they publicly deface, libel, and discredit whomever they please. Paulson is a perfect example. He is a federal politician. A member of the administration, and this worldreports.org site is printing that he was arrested, put before an INTERNATIONAL TRIBUNAL, and SENTENCED. Meanwhile noone else has mentioned this NEWS. Yet will this site admit it was wrong and make a public apology?

What happened to Dan Rather's career when he "Got it wrong"?

TAM
 
The trouble with the so-called alternative media is that the signal-to-noise ratio is so low that if something huge DID get discovered there, the chances are good it'd get dismissed because the AM's reliability record on these stories is so bad. If Alex Jones came up with incontrovertible proof of Bush's involvement in 9/11, who would listen? We'd think he faked it, because he's destroyed his credibility with all of the other shaite he's put out.
 
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If there were incontrovertible proof of Bush being involved in 911 other than via neglect, it wouldn't likely only be in the hands of one person.

I don't want to hijack the thread TAM but you seriously underestimate the "perfect storm" which has resulted in serious problems with mainstream media and it's predominance as the information source for the majority of people in this country. Due to some of those multiple factors (not some single conspiracy) Bush proponents were able to shift the focus of Bush's Nat'l Guard record to Dan Rather's and Mary Mapes' mistake of rushing ahead with a story they should have taken more time investigating. It's a classic Karl Rove campaign tactic and they are very good at it. Fake memos or not, the actual story was true.
 
About the web site

Christopher E. H. Story FRSA, Managing and Operations Director, a former occasional adviser to Lady Thatcher, has over 35 years’ experience of specialist intelligence and financial publishing.

Mr Story has testified on several occasions before US Congressional Committees on international affairs issues. He is a very well-known independent currency, economics, finance and current affairs specialist, and is also a conference speaker on dimensions of the World Revolution that are swamping and confusing the West.


The 1992 Presidential election was won by Bill Clinton, a CIA operative and intelligence community ‘Box Gang’ crony of the Bush Family. Sure enough, a large parcel arrived at World Reports Limited’s London office in December 1992, containing more than 100 pages of memoranda that Mr Golitsyn had submitted of his own volition (not under contract) to the Central Intelligence Agency (many of them addressed by name to the Director of Central Intelligence, or DCI). So what did Anatoliy Golitsyn realise about the US presidential succession of 1992, or what did he suspect? Did he know that Clinton, a CIA operative, may also serve another master (as subsequent events allegedly implied)?
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Another forum seems to be having a similar discussion, though it starts off with all the believers. Some skeptics do join in. (Sorry if you've linked to this stuff already.) There were also a couple of links to a Japanese site which turned out to be a forum also.


I see only BS with this guy and his site. The supposed journals only pop up on the worldreports website. The books look like they're only on the web site. Probably self published pamphlets. Having supposedly authored all sorts of economic stuff and supposedly being "well known" nothing can be found on Google with the guy's name as author. This guy may very well be mentally ill. If not, then we need a few new definitions in the DSM-IV diagnostic manual.
 
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Opinions aside, SG, I have had no proof shown to me that the MSM is corrupt, as you say it is. Likewise, I have only sites like worldreports.org, and a few other less than bias AM sites to compare to when judging them. Show me some alternative media sites that have NO AGENDA, and provide only honest, well backed news stories, and I am sure my opinion (on the validity of some AM) may be changable.

So do you consider all MSM, regardless of nation or origin, to be corrupt? How about the CBC in Canada, or BBC in the UK?

TAM
 
By MSM I take it you are referring to mainstream media?

Is there a thread we can take this to, should I start another or is it agreed this is within the tread topic?

I have pages to post on this. It may take time.
 
I wanted to add re TAM's comment, "Show me some alternative media sites that have NO AGENDA," an observation/question.

Prior to current Iraq invasion, Amy Goodman from Democracy Now documented the background of all the special guests interviewed on the main news stations, CNN, MSNBC, and Fox because they were supposedly some kind of expert. Out of approximately 400 guests (I can look up the exact details) only 3 were leaders of antiwar activists groups. There were a fair number of 911 victims' relatives who organized a group called "Not in Our Name" who opposed any more killing in the name of their lost loved ones. They were never heard from on the MSN or if heard from it was one time (again, the exact details escape me.)

Given the fact the country was not 99% pro war and 1% antiwar (which 400 to 3 guests suggests, in fact the antiwar movement was significant prior to the start of the war), and given there was a considerable body of evidence suggesting Bush was presenting false information (see DN archives for the timing of the disclosures I noted earlier), just which news media sites had an AGENDA?


Note: the Democracy Now broadcast station is located within walking distance of the Trade Towers. Just an FYI in case anyone was assuming they were out of touch with the events of that day.
 
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I am starting to think this guy is losing it:

http://www.worldreports.org/news/39_paulson_flew_to_isra

8th January 2007: The text of this report was approved verbatim by Michael C. Cottrell, M.S., Executive Vice President, AmeriTrust Groupe, Inc., and separately by Ambassador Wanta. All details of the Paulson arrest scenario and the contents of the Diary coverage on this website, together with all the previous Wanta postings, are also pre-approved by Michael C. Cottrell, M.S., Treasurer and Executive Vice President, AmeriTrust Groupe, Inc, and by Ambassador Leo Emil Wanta.

10th January: For those kind Americans and others who may be concerned at vituperative 'Black' attacks on the Principals and this website, please be reassured that those who know the facts in sensitive places know that we are 'true', that the facts are the facts, that the 'Black' antagonists cannot 'succeed', and that the matter is being addressed by certain means which we are not at liberty to elaborate upon. In the meantime, we who believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and is come in the flesh, can rejoice at His assurances to us in Matthew Chapter 7, verses 16-20:

'Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?'
'Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit'.
'Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire'.
'Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them'.

10th January: The primary source for information on the global Wanta-related international financial corruption crisis is this website: www.worldreports.org. All such intelligence is cleared in advance by the Principals. Any Internet sources claiming to be the primary source and which are lifting our information (in one or more cases verbatim, deleting all references to us, which is a gross breach of copyright and rank plagiarism) and that are claiming to be disseminating this information as their original research, are openly deceiving both themselves and their readerships. Intelligence on this subject which diverges in any way from what is posted on www.worldreports.org is by definition unreliable and cannot be trusted. It should be checked against our postings for veracity. Detailed information is available in International Currency Review [see website for further details].
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Someone is playing "A Beautiful Mind: The Home Game"
 
International Currency Review

Only obtained by purchase from worldreports.
Only cited on by worldreports and the 2 blogs buying into the nonsense.

David Icke.com
International Currency Review supports story of US Treasury rip off by Bush and Clinton crime families

'While the country is preoccupied with terrorism, the war in Iraq and 9/11, thugs controlling the takeover of America are stealing citizens blind to the tune of $55 to $300 trillion dollars, according to an undercover financial report by the London-based International Currency Review.

The up-to-date report just released confirms that $27.5 trillion first raised from 1989-1992 to finance the imposition of the New World Order...
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The "read more" link gets you:
Greg Szymanski's Arctic Beacon
thugs controlling the takeover of America are stealing citizens blind to the tune of $55 to $300 trillion dollars, according to an undercover financial report by the London-based International Currency Review.

The up-to-date report just released confirms that $27.5 trillion first raised from 1989-1992 to finance the imposition of the New World Order....
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From there you can open a Word Doc with the ICR article pasted as an image file. It's hard to read. Anyone care to look at it? I don't have the time to debunk it. I've seen enough.
 
Seems those who run worldreports.org have finally gone insane...big surprise.

SG:

given the report that sparked this thread has a lot to do with the sources credibility, i think a discussion, side or otherwise, wrt MSM versus AM would be tolerated.

TAM:)
 
T.A.M. said:
Seems those who run worldreports.org have finally gone insane...big surprise.

SG:

given the report that sparked this thread has a lot to do with the sources credibility, i think a discussion, side or otherwise, wrt MSM versus AM would be tolerated.

TAM:)
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Is it a "those" or a "he"?

And while it could be a "she" I don't think you can find many examples of females with this kind of behavior.

But you didn't comment on MSM agendas, TAM. I was hoping you could tell me why you think MSM is so agenda neutral? Too off topic?
 
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