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Today's Mass Shooting

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William Parcher said:
They are not normal to me. Each of them is a display of great abnormality and I hate them all.
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I accept that, the problem for you is that many more do not care, or see mass shootings as the reason why they want a gun (so perpetuating the problem).

Meanwhile, a mass shooting in the UK, or Australia or elsewhere, units an entire country to act.

It is horrible and sad, but you are better to develop a coping strategy and normalising it, so you are not that bothered, is one way of coping.
 
Dr. Keith said:
Dear friend, dig away. I am fully aware that it is an abomination that our firefighters are so damn good at treating gun shot wounds.
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The same was true during The Troubles. Army doctors would go to Northern Ireland for training on dealing with gun shot and wounds from explosives.

The shootings and bombings were normalised during The Troubles. I know and am related to plenty of people who lived through The Troubles. They all remark how they could just get on with their lives and ignore what was going on around them.

Like gun violence in the USA, it was pretty easy to avoid certain places and so greatly reduce your chances of being shot at.

That NI was able to solve its problems (mostly) is the most remarkable thing I have seen in my life. Martin McGuinness and Ian Paisley best buddies! How did that happen! But it meant the entire of NI had come together to solve the problem. The estimate is that about 10-5% of the population were involved in and responsible for The Troubles. They also had fewer weapons than the average American town!

With 88.8 guns per 100 people in the USA and around 30% of adults owning a gun, the scale of the problem is far greater in the USA, plus there is not the universal will to change.

Hence NI could change, but the USA cannot.
 
Nessie said:
I watched a documentary about the Aurora mass shooting. What was particularly depressing was that in the USA, only those most closely linked to that shooting were bothered by it. Whereas in Scotland , with Dunblane, the entire country felt the affects. It was as if we had all be shot at.
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The legislative changes also had enough suppoprt in the rest of the UK to be passed virtually unopposed.
 
The rate of mass shootings for 2018 compared to last is unlikely to change significantly, there is no reason for it to do so, any change is going to just a statistical variation.

On possible significant cause of change is not going to happen. Trump suggested he would make changes, but he has done nothing. I remember it being said Trump is used to getting people round a table and battering out an agreement. But that was to get a contract to build a new casino or golf club. Getting the NRA to agree with the anti-gun lobby is even more improbable than getting the two sides in the Northern Irish Troubles to agree.
 
Nessie said:
The rate of mass shootings for 2018 compared to last is unlikely to change significantly, there is no reason for it to do so, any change is going to just a statistical variation.

On possible significant cause of change is not going to happen. Trump suggested he would make changes, but he has done nothing. I remember it being said Trump is used to getting people round a table and battering out an agreement. But that was to get a contract to build a new casino or golf club. Getting the NRA to agree with the anti-gun lobby is even more improbable than getting the two sides in the Northern Irish Troubles to agree.
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The lunatic's response was to blame it on Obama not giving the police enough military surplus weapons and promising to fix things by giving them more - completely insane.
 
Nessie said:
I watched a documentary about the Aurora mass shooting. What was particularly depressing was that in the USA, only those most closely linked to that shooting were bothered by it. Whereas in Scotland , with Dunblane, the entire country felt the affects. It was as if we had all be shot at.
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If it's still online, you can find me in the online condolences for the Dunblane killing.

I'm bothered by every shooting. I'm especially bothered that I have less time to process each one before the next one takes place. In 2006 when the "Capitol Hill Massacre" took place, I joined some local online raver boards, and commiserated with them, and offered them some advice on how to cope with being the current hated subculture (being a goth, I know too well).

I have several friends who simply refuse to go into public places anymore because of the anxiety it causes.

But as the economy has become so much worse for anyone but the richest, as people try to juggle 2-3 jobs and hope they won't get sick and lose everything, there's less and less energy left for empathy, support, or caring for anyone outside your social circle. This is why health care is turning into a popularity contest. You start a donation page, and you hope you have a lot of friends with a little extra money.

But I'm getting distracted from my point. When you're treading water in a flood, you're too busy trying to keep from drowning to help other people, and that's what it's becoming here.
 
In the wake of the Kentucky school shooting, a look at how kids get guns. Nearly half of our states lack “safe storage” laws to keep guns in homes out of kids’ hands

“I noticed a lady that was distraught, couldn’t find her child,” Adams said. Adams was texting with her son, and tried to get information for the other parent. That’s when they both learned something terrible.

“That was the shooter’s mother,” Adams said. She said the woman went into what seemed like shock.

“I held her hair while she threw up.”

Adams says the mother was in shock.

“The shooter took the gun out of her closet,” Adams said.
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Safe Storage

“We know that those laws work,” Hannah Shearer said. She’s a staff attorney at the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, which formed after Arizona U.S. Representative Gabby Giffords was shot in 2011.

“There is research that states that have child access prevention laws have successfully reduced unintentional gun injuries among children and also child suicides,” Shearer said. “We know that in states with those laws fewer kids are getting their hands on their parents’ guns and harming themselves with guns.”
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Kentucky State Senator Gerald Neal, a Democrat from Louisville, introduced a child access law in the last legislative session.

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Neal said his bill is not about gun control but about gun safety. He compared it to laws on wearing seat belts. Still, the bill went nowhere. In Ohio, similar bills met a similar fate in the last three sessions.

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The Ohio Valley region has a high percentage of state lawmakers who get a positive rating from the National Rifle Association for votes or campaign pledges that limit regulation of firearms. The NRA did not return requests for an interview for this story.
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Civet said:
No need. We can just post here every time there's a new mass shooting. I doubt the thread will stay dormant too long.
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Exactly no need for seperate threads for every mass shooting, that is just plain inefficient and confusing.
 
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