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Today's Mass Shooting

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It's very sad that we can have a thread that says "Today's mass shooting" and have it be relevant daily.
 
thaiboxerken said:
It's very sad that we can have a thread that says "Today's mass shooting" and have it be relevant daily.
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It is one of the wonderful ways that america is truly exceptional, and as such should be celebrated. Just like our maternal mortality rate. These things make america the envy of the entire world!
 
Darat said:
And that the attitude is always there is simply no way to stop it happening from a certain section of the USA.
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That's not true.

One side proposes universal background checks, registration, better reporting into criminal background databases, temporary confiscation from domestic abuse suspects pending legal proceedings, restrictions on high-capacity magazines, that sort of thing.

The other side proposes MORE GUNS, EVERYWHERE!!!! as the best solution.

I am totally sure the two concepts could be equally effective.:rolleyes:
 
crescent said:
That's not true.

One side proposes universal background checks, registration, better reporting into criminal background databases, temporary confiscation from domestic abuse suspects pending legal proceedings, restrictions on high-capacity magazines, that sort of thing.

The other side proposes MORE GUNS, EVERYWHERE!!!! as the best solution.

I am totally sure the two concepts could be equally effective.:rolleyes:
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All Americans want less shootings, we just disagree on how to achieve that goal.
 
Yes. Some of us think less bullets in the air means less people shot.

Republicans, however, think that we need to saturate our atmosphere will bullets.
 
Dr. Keith said:
All Americans want less shootings, we just disagree on how to achieve that goal.
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As long as the right people get shot, many americans are happy. If they are black teens thinking they are entitled to walk the streets of their own neighborhood that is exactly the kind of person who needs to be shot according to many americans.
 
Dr. Keith said:
All Americans want less shootings, we just disagree on how to achieve that goal.
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I think there's more to it than that, otherwise there would be more of a debate on how well initiatives to reduce shootings were actually working. I think that all Americans want less shootings, but disagree on what cost they are willing to incur in order to achieve that benefit; in particular, a very vocal segment believe that increased controls on gun ownership are too high a price to pay.

Dave
 
Belz... said:
*Fewer.

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It sounds better to my ear as well, but that's probably because the prescription was drummed into me, and yet native speakers of English will use less for countable objects and there is no real reason why they shouldn't do so.

the now-standard pedantry about less/fewer is in fact one of the many false "rules" that have recently precipitated out of the over-saturated solution of linguistic ignorance where most usage advice is brewed.
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source

And Merriam Webster gives some of the background here.
 
Belz... said:
Stannis was wrong?

I hate you!
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In fact Stannis was wrong about many things, but he believed he was right, and he sacrificed everything for what he thought was right. Maybe there is a lesson for everyone there even in these gun threads.
 
angrysoba said:
It sounds better to my ear as well, but that's probably because the prescription was drummed into me, and yet native speakers of English will use less for countable objects and there is no real reason why they shouldn't do so.



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And Merriam Webster gives some of the background here.
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That article seems to be arguing that because a grammatical rule was only instituted in 1770 and has been accepted ever since, it can be safely ignored?

It doesn't make a great deal of sense "Alfred the Great used 'less', so why shouldn't we?", the article seems to state. (While also mentioning that the actual grammatical form he used is no longer in use at all.)

Well, Alfred spoke a very different English to the one I speak and, and this is the kicker, all grammatical rules are arbitrary.

I@m sticking with the arbitrary grammatical rule that has been in use for 250 years and not falling back on 'well, they used a different form 300 years ago'.
 
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Dr. Keith said:
All Americans want less shootings, we just disagree on how to achieve that goal.
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I am not sure I agree with that. There are a good number of Americans, cops in particular, who are desperate to use the weapons they have and shoot at another person. I watched a documentary about the San Bernardino shooting involving the man and wife terror attack. There was an aerial view of the shootout at the arrest, this is just some of the cops who turned up;

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the documentary showed way more, piling out and shooting at the vehicle and the couple. They were all desperate to fire at the couple with no one taking control and attempting any sort of negotiation, containment and arrest.
 
ponderingturtle said:
As long as the right people get shot, many americans are happy. If they are black teens thinking they are entitled to walk the streets of their own neighborhood that is exactly the kind of person who needs to be shot according to many americans.
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Ya, that's what it is. Black gangbangers are shooting each other daily (see LA times daily shootings listing) because they are black. Got it. I assume this is what you meant?

Nessie said:
I am not sure I agree with that. There are a good number of Americans, cops in particular, who are desperate to use the weapons they have and shoot at another person. I watched a documentary about the San Bernardino shooting involving the man and wife terror attack. There was an aerial view of the shootout at the arrest, this is just some of the cops who turned up;

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the documentary showed way more, piling out and shooting at the vehicle and the couple. They were all desperate to fire at the couple with no one taking control and attempting any sort of negotiation, containment and arrest.
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Desperate to shoot someone? I agree we have a problem in this country. Perhaps if we can get a hold of ourselves and think - I mean how many people do you think really are desperate to shoot someone? Is that what you really think or are you letting emotions do the talking?

Not trying to pick on anyone but there is no way to have a reasonable discussion here. Everyone is either a white racist or desperate to shoot someone, or both.

Every time you attack the person you are trying to convince, the wall between you gets bigger. They may defend something they wouldn't normally defend just to prove you are wrong.
 
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