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Time To Grow Up.

cyborg said:
I still want to know what 'mega drugs' I am missing out on people! I will join a religion if necessary.
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IIRC from my high school days, and I admit the memory is foggy, there are some Southwest Amerind religious practices that use ritual intake of peyote and mescaline. I think a bit of google will help you find them.

When I was younger, I was exposed to the Hops belief system:

"I believe I'll have a beer." :)

I am not sure if the Church of Brew ever got non-profit status. :p

DR
 
Kathy this is a dead honest question:

Have you ever struck your children in the name of "tough-love"?
 
Randfan,

Nobody's stopping you...

Ah, I think maybe I misunderstood.

I thought you were using Cockney rhyming slang for a minute:

Pony = Pony & Trap = something beginning with "c" and ending with a rap.

On second thoughts, maybe I didn't misunderstand? :)

YBW
 
I think he wants 25 quid.

RandFan, if you need a short term loan you just need to ask.
 
Wollery - he did ask! :)

Randfan - if you're really short of cash, that's what friends are for...

I hope you enjoyed your pony, BTW.

YBW
 
RE: My desire for an immature equine.

In America it's common for kids to want ponies for their birthday or Xmas, particularly girls. Horses are expensive and for many kids it's doomed to be an unfulfilled wish. So "I want a pony" is short for "we don't always get what we want".

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Not just in America - my sister really wanted one when she was little!

She was luckier that the little girl in your picture - that's a cruel picture! - as a neighbour owned a horse, with a nearly field, so she was able to help look after it. Second best, but, better than nowt! Nowadays, she pays to go riding most Sundays!

I'm sure we realised your meaning, but that's not to say I don't prefer our explanations! :)

YBW
 
Randfan wins the thread and the funny awards simultaneously. gglol
 
Kurious Kathy hasn't been on the JREF forum since Dec. 10.

Do you think the Rapture has started? [crosses fingers]
 
Here's a few (possibly) related if's:

If the Rapture used Revelations as a source,
If Revelations is really correct is saying that there's only 144,000 places available,
If revelations is also correct in stating that they're celibate, virgin men,
If KK has been raptured.....

Therefore it's obvious that KK has been telling lies about her/his sex?

OK - let's not go there, especially at seven in the morning. :)

YBW
 
Ladewig said:
So, Kurious_Kathy, have you reconsidered your position about Wicca?

Are you prepared to admit you were mistaken about their beliefs and practices or are you going to hold the view that you stated earlier?
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What are you after with this question? Do you want some more testimonials of ex-Wiccans and witches to convince you that that their religion is deceptive? In a time where there are so many false religions where else can anyone turn but the truth of Christ?

He died to save us and that's the one thing everyone needs! We are all the same inside. God made each of us and the common denominator is Jesus.

Check out some of these testimonials on my friends websites and let me know what you think...http://www.refugeministries.cc/aboutus.asp?id06=56&cat06=31
 
kurious_kathy said:
In a time where there are so many false religions where else can anyone turn but the truth of Christ?
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Reason and logic. Evolution. Science.

He died to save us and that's the one thing everyone needs!
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No, we need to grow up and stop believing in Santa Claus, the tooth fairy and other myths.

We are all the same inside.
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No, we are not. Some people are sociopaths and are incapable of empathy. Some people are not able to differentiate fantasy from reality due to a medical condition.

We are, demonstrably, not all the same inside.
 
RandFan said:
Reason and logic. Evolution. Science.
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If God defies all space and time, who says He has to be logical? No that's the point we cannot tell God to do anything our way, He's the one that makes everything and He does what He wants.

Aren't you just in awe sometimes by all He created? In nature I still feel closer to God than anywhere else. Nobody can deny in the beginning God created.

RandFan said:
No, we need to grow up and stop believing in Santa Claus, the tooth fairy and other myths.
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Jesus is not a myth. We have plenty of documents to testify He came and lived among men. Died on the cross, but rose again thus proving Himself to be God. Eyewitnesses, many of them!

RandFan said:
No, we are not. Some people are sociopaths and are incapable of empathy. Some people are not able to differentiate fantasy from reality due to a medical condition.
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Well there is a lot of mental sickness in the world, but I myself believe many of those people are oppressed by demons. The Bible teaches us that our battle is not against flesh and blood but against spirits of wickedness and evil in the heavenly realm. Hey RF it's all true and I am here to testify to that. If God would let you see what's going on spiritually behind the scenes, would you believe it then? This is what He did for me. I aint lying.

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We are, demonstrably, not all the same inside.
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Well we all came from the creator. The only difference seems to be whether you are going to choose Christ or the world. Take this world and all it's treasure, just give me Jesus which is the true life giver!

Hey have you ever heard Amy Grants hubby Vince Gill sing that song..."Give Me Jesus"? I saw it last year on the Christian Music Awards and it was a pretty amazing performance.
 
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kurious_kathy said:
If God defies all space and time, who says He has to be logical?
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:) kathy, I completely agree. God is illogical.

No that's the point we cannot tell God to do anything our way, He's the one that makes everything and He does what He wants.
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Just like a petulant child. There is no such thing as god but if there was he would be the most illogical, angry, selfish, petulant beast in the universe. I for one am glad that he does not exist.

Aren't you just in awe sometimes by all He created?
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Don't you just love to beg the question?

Jesus is not a myth. We have plenty of documents to testify He came and lived among men. Died on the cross, but rose again thus proving Himself to be God. Eyewitnesses, many of them!
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The bible is true because the bible says that it is true. Have you ever heard of circular reasoning?

Well there is a lot of mental sickness in the world, but I myself believe many of those people are oppressed by demons.
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How enlightened. I suppose you pick and choose which medical science you subscribe to.

I'm happy that these people don't have to subscribe to your medieval beliefs for treatment.

The Bible teaches us that our battle is not against flesh and blood but against spirits of wickedness and evil in the heavenly realm. Hey RF it's all true and I am here to testify to that. If God would let you see what's going on spiritually behind the scenes, would you believe it then? This is what He did for me. I aint lying.
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Of course you ain't KK. Neither were the folks who flew the planes into the towers.

Hey have you ever heard Amy Grants hubby Vince Gill sing that song..."Give Me Jesus"? I saw it last year on the Christian Music Awards and it was a pretty amazing performance.
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Well, damn, Vince Gill huh? I guess that's enough for me to make ignorance a virtue.
 
I'm with Randfan about this,

When I look at nature I remember what people have explained about Evolution, and think that's got it covered. If I was to look at Nature and think it shows how great and clever God is, then I remember how screwed up a lot of it is - Fill the world with seawater, then design humans so that they cannot drink it; cover the world with loads of deserts where the necessities of life - fresh clean water, food and shelter - are impossible; and how about designing a wasp that lays its eggs inside a living creature so that the larvae have fresh food to eat.

I could go on, but I'm just about to eat breakfast....

"Plenty of documents" - evidence?

So you're advocating the driving out of demons now - though presumably you don't see that as incompatible with using modern medicine - developed by using science - especially evolution!

Just why are you here, KK?

It's been explained endlessly that preaching doesn't work in the JREF, but reasoned arguments backed up with verifiable data might just.

Actually, even if you've not got such data, many of us are eager for discussion, anyway, but that implies two-way interaction - not one side offering discussion points, and the other sermons.

Can't you see that you're your own worst enemy here?

YBW
 
My last post here wasa typed while Randfan was typing his.

So - I'd like to add that he's reinforced my agreement with him - and replied to all of KK's statements too!

* tips hat *

YBW
 
Ryokan said:
What if the child of Wiccan parents converts to Christianity?

Do you advocate parents taking a stand against the child's rebellion then as well?
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Are you ignoring me, Kathy? If not, could you please maybe answer this? I'm really curious.
 
kurious_kathy said:
What are you after with this question? Do you want some more testimonials of ex-Wiccans and witches to convince you that that their religion is deceptive? In a time where there are so many false religions where else can anyone turn but the truth of Christ?

He died to save us and that's the one thing everyone needs! We are all the same inside. God made each of us and the common denominator is Jesus.

Check out some of these testimonials on my friends websites and let me know what you think...http://www.refugeministries.cc/aboutus.asp?id06=56&cat06=31
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We should probably leave aside the question of whether or not Wicca is a deceptive religion because you have decided that all religions other than Christianity are deceptive and no amount of evidence could convince you that you are wrong on the matter.

Instead, let's talk about your other claim:
Kurious_Kathy said:
Also consider most of the people into these two things, Wicca and Satanism, most of them are on mega drugs which makes them totally out of conrtrol and unable to use any logic or reason when a parent or adult may be trying to help them.
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I didn't read every article on the site you linked to so I may have missed it, but do you have any evidence to back up the claim that most Wiccans use drugs? I would love for you to either 1) provide reliable evidence or 2) admit that you are wrong on this issue.
 
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