Time to end the Cuba embargo?

Darth Rotor said:
Perhaps, but at this point, that's rum well under the bridge. Fidel has had two generations not to be a despot. Failed, he did.
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I have noticed something funny about countries with tyrannical governments. They seem to get worse when they are surrounded by hostile nations, especially hostile and powerful nations. You push a dictator and he pushes back. If you can be made to look like a would-be oppressor, the people will put up with all sorts of crap to resist you.

When Castro came to power, there were people still living who remembered the US military occupation, if not the conquest of the island. about half of those alive now may remember what it was like living in a Mafia resort colony.

What happened that they should change how they respond to a threat which has not significantly changed in about fifty years?
 
leftysergeant said:
I have noticed something funny about countries with tyrannical governments. They seem to get worse when they are surrounded by hostile nations, especially hostile and powerful nations.
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Israel must be the exception to your dopey rule. They do not have a tyrannical government, and yet they are surrounded by hostile nations.
 
Darth Rotor said:
Perhaps, but at this point, that's rum well under the bridge. Fidel has had two generations not to be a despot. Failed, he did. He is simply a king without the convention of a crown, passing his throne to his relations, like any other two bit despot. That he spouts rhetoric approved by useful idiots shows me that he's crafty like a fox, and that he uses those who don't mind being used thanks to their delusions.

I can't say I care for the virulent anti Castro Amero Cuban lobby much myself, as they created a bloody tempest in a teapot when a man wanted his son back. :p

DR
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I dont disagree with anything you say - However subsquent US policy seems at odds with the embargo. All through the worst of South Africa's problems the US still traded with them. People have pointed out China and other such nations that the US appears happy to work with. Cuba, just seems to be in a class of its own, and always has been
 
MG1962 said:
I dont disagree with anything you say - However subsquent US policy seems at odds with the embargo. All through the worst of South Africa's problems the US still traded with them. People have pointed out China and other such nations that the US appears happy to work with. Cuba, just seems to be in a class of its own, and always has been
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Let's suggest you follow

The votes (Al Gore in 2000)
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The Money (sugar lobby)

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Tobacco Lobby

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About two decades (or more) of influential New Yorkers who lost quite a bit to Fidel's nationalization efforts getting their complaints heard in Congress.

And, for thirty years, the numbnuts (Fidel) decided to be Moscow's bitch when Washington and Moscow were in a turf war over much of the globe.

I don't think it's all that difficult to figure out.

Now? Is it worth losing the votes to support a two bit despot? No.

The people of Cuba get the government they deserve, as most do.

DR
 
Cicero said:
Israel must be the exception to your dopey rule. They do not have a tyrannical government, and yet they are surrounded by hostile nations.
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Tell that to the Arabs whose orchards are now Jewish condominiums.
 
Cuba grows unique tobacco that makes the best 'gars in the world. I wonder what they could do with cannabis?
 
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