Time to Close this Subforum

[corplinx]

Mods, its time to shut this forum down. The election is over. All we have now is a bit of conspiracy stuff going on.

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Mods, its time to shut this forum down. The election is over. All we have now is a bit of conspiracy stuff going on.

Good point.

 

[Kevin_Lowe]

I agree with those guys.

Would it be possible to move the active ("conspiracy") threads to the main Politics forum if this one is being shut down or archived or whatever?

We could always start new ones, but the important links and information are spread all over the place as it is.

 

[Jim Bowen]

Nowt to do with me, living in England (and cold it is this morning, too), but it does appear tohave out lived its' purpose.

Jim Bowen and his twopence worth

 

[epepke]

Although it's getting kind of stale, I suggest closing this forum on Inauguration Day.

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Although it's getting kind of stale, I suggest closing this forum on Inauguration Day.

I'll second that. Because technically he isn't president again until then. And besides, it could be discovered that martians took over the bodies of Ohio voters and then had them hack into the machines to tilt the election to Bush. Because they were afraid that if Kerry was elected, he would use the US death ray gun against Mars. Or something like that.

 

[BPSCG]

And besides, it could be discovered that martians took over the bodies of Ohio voters and then had them hack into the machines to tilt the election to Bush. Because they were afraid that if Kerry was elected, he would use the US death ray gun against Mars. Or something like that.

Shhh - you'll give Ion and Demon ideas...

I vote Inauguration Day. Though that won't be the end of the discussion - people are still claiming Bush stole the 2000 election.

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Though that won't be the end of the discussion - people are still claiming Bush stole the 2000 election.

Which is what I predicted in another thread. This Bev Harris loon will be around for the next four years whining about some conspiracy. And, not coincidently, collecting "donations".

 

[webfusion]

The Constitution of the United States...

says the election has not been concluded officially.
In fact, the Ohio popular vote hasn't even been certified.

David Cobb is doing everything possible to get the recount started, while the Ohio Secretary of State is doing everything he can to put off the certification a few more days (so that a recount completion will be more unlikely before Dec 13th).

People are still claiming Bush stole the 2000 election.

I'm certain that you are making that statement without actually knowing the facts. Let me entertain you:

In Florida in 2000, before the Supreme Court interceded in the election outcome, there was no statewide recount conducted. A coalition of newspapers later analyzed the vote, in essence, doing their own recount. They found Al Gore had won.
That result was spun by those defending George W. Bush, however, saying that the smaller number of counties where Gore wanted a recount would not have made Gore president.

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Re: The Constitution of the United States...

In Florida in 2000, before the Supreme Court interceded in the election outcome, there was no statewide recount conducted. A coalition of newspapers later analyzed the vote, in essence, doing their own recount. They found Al Gore had won.

And other coalitions found the opposite.

Keep whining....

 

[Ion]

Re: Re: The Constitution of the United States...

...
Keep whining....

I think you are confusing two words:

.) whining,

and

.) contesting.

It's about contesting.

 

[crimresearch]

Got to agree with shutting down the election forum after the elections.

Those who want to complain about the outcome can do so in the regular politics forum, just like they have for the results of the last election, and those who want to advance claims of fraud based upon various woo theories have already been invited to apply for the JREF million.

Nothing more to see here folks.

 

[Yahweh]

Mods, its time to shut this forum down. The election is over. All we have now is a bit of conspiracy stuff going on.

Might as well close the Transition Forum while we're at it...

 

[crimresearch]

Re: Re: Time to Close this Subforum

Might as well close the Transition Forum while we're at it...

Yah know....now that you mention it...

 

[epepke]

I'll second that. Because technically he isn't president again until then.

Also, it could be announced enough in advance that people would have a chance to wind the discussions down.

And besides, it could be discovered that martians took over the bodies of Ohio voters and then had them hack into the machines to tilt the election to Bush.

<begin nasty comment>

How could you tell? Seriously, I had the bad taste to marry a woman from Ohio. The Cuyahoga has actually been on fire.

<end nasty comment>

 

[webfusion]

must --- have ----- a ------ recount ----

What is it in the overall system of the Electoral College that is not understood?
(I know it's hard, so concentrate -------)

Got to agree with shutting down the election forum after the elections.

The US Constitution says that the "elections" are over when all the Electoral College representatives have completed their voting (and technically, not until the reading of their results in Congress by the President of the Senate, the VP of the USA)

That happens in JANUARY ... so take a chill pill and have a nice Thanksgiving and Christmas and New Years and then it will be OK to conclude that these "elections are over". Sheesh.

Constitution of the United States. You know, that old document/treasure map?!
US Constitution; the actual physical embodiment of Nationhood & Democracy we're sending soldiers to die in Iraq defending.

Article II, Section 1

 

[crimresearch]

Re: must --- have ----- a ------ recount ----

What is it in the overall system of the Electoral College that is not understood?
(I know it's hard, so concentrate -------)



The US Constitution says that the "elections" are over when all the Electoral College representatives have completed their voting (and technically, not until the reading of their results in Congress by the President of the Senate, the VP of the USA)

That happens in JANUARY ... so take a chill pill and have a nice Thanksgiving and Christmas and New Years and then it will be OK to conclude that these "elections are over". Sheesh.

Constitution of the United States. You know, that old document/treasure map?!
US Constitution; the actual physical embodiment of Nationhood & Democracy we're sending soldiers to die in Iraq defending.

Article II, Section 1

Too bad you have never read the document you mention so freely, else you might know that from this point on, no amount of commentary from us is going to affect the electoral college, or the outcome of the election.

And too bad you didn't bother doing a little reading of this forum before making a fool of yourself, else you would know that the electoral process is standard fare for the politics forum, and doesn't require this subforum.
This subforum was set up to discuss the candidates *in* the election campaigns, not high school civics topics like how the electoral college and vote counting works.

Good job after only 30 posts...I can't wait to see how you reveal the depths of your lack of other knowledge in the future.

 

[webfusion]

just because you say so don't make it so

else you might know that from this point on, no amount of commentary from us is going to affect the electoral college, or the outcome of the election

I have no doubt that the commentary here which preceeded Nov 2nd was of marginal influence also!

The heading in this subforum is "The 2004 Presidential Election" and nowhere do I see anything that restricts the posts to discussion about the candidates.

There's Post Election Fun, there's SPIN, there's Ohio recount, there's Psychics Stole the election, and the popular Bev Harris Woo...

Man, if I was to actually ask TC MITS (The Celebrated Man in the Street) if he was even aware of the fact the Ohio election has not even been certified officially and that a recount is about to be conducted, the reply would be -- HUH?

This is what I see as crimresearch's position;
"Of course, it's all well-known high-school civics and theory, so let's not allow these woowoos to bring that up into the discussion at this point. Let's Shut It Down and dismiss any further annoyances from newcomers who just don't get it that this election is over."

I can't wait to see how you reveal the depths of your lack of other knowledge

So, why wait? Go jump on my case in The Real Nature of MidEast Politics forum. Have fun...

 

[Ian Osborne]

Why not lock all threads that haven't been posted to in the last seven days? If the mods keep doing this every 24 hours, the threads that are no longer used would die one by one, and the sub-forum would die a natural death without closing any active discussions. Just a thought...

 

[Ion]

Re: must --- have ----- a ------ recount ----

...
The US Constitution says that the "elections" are over when all the Electoral College representatives have completed their voting (and technically, not until the reading of their results in Congress by the President of the Senate, the VP of the USA)

That happens in JANUARY ... so take a chill pill and have a nice Thanksgiving and Christmas and New Years and then it will be OK to conclude that these "elections are over". Sheesh.

Constitution of the United States. You know, that old document/treasure map?!
US Constitution; the actual physical embodiment of Nationhood & Democracy we're sending soldiers to die in Iraq defending.

Article II, Section 1

Good point, webfusion.

I agree with you.