This place is overflowing with kooks.

David Wong said:
Come on, he didn't come here to have a conversation about 9/11. He came here to insult people. The 9/11 topic is just a catalyst that gives him a launching pad for the insults.

Maybe he had a bad day at work, maybe he's an abrasive person. But he took the time to sign up and type out a post purely to spew insults and try to get responses that would give him an excuse to spew further insults. I doubt he even believes in the conspiracy, he just Googled and copied and pasted the first stuff he saw.

The term "troll" is thrown around too much, often at debaters who are too quick to insult. But this guy is a true "troll" in that he only came here to see how many replies he could rack up before retreating to a chat room and boasting about how he really stirred things up over at JREF.
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Bullseye, DW. Which is why I have decreed that he prove his NON baboon-ness before anyone will engage him in debate.
 
Wizard said:
If intelligence operatives plan a false flag attack it is possible for other operatives to get wind of the situation and not know its being planned by insiders.
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Pardalis said:
Who are the "good" operatives and who are the "bad" operatives?
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Wizard said:
I thought you might be engaging me in an intelligent conversation. I was mistaken
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It's an intelligent question.

You say operatives were part of the false flag operation. Who would those be?

You say other operatives weren't in on the plot and did their job, who were they?

Simple question.
 
I am definately a kook. I know this because I make decision based on objective, scientific, factialally based evidence. I am in the minority.

i am not simply contrarian.

Yes I am

No I am not.

He you just contadicted me.

No I didn't!

Yes you did!
 
Pardalis said:
It's an intelligent question.

You say operatives were part of the false flag operation. Who would those be?

You say other operatives weren't in on the plot and did their job, who were they?

Simple question.
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It's possibly the most stupid question I have ever been asked.

Firstly, I wasn't referring to 9/11 specifically.

Secondly, how can I possibly know who covert intelligence operatives are? Can you name a single covert operative who currently works for American intelligence agencies?
 
Pardalis said:
It's an intelligent question.

You say operatives were part of the false flag operation. Who would those be?

You say other operatives weren't in on the plot and did their job, who were they?

Simple question.
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the real question is how did the good operatives get wind of the bad operatives plan when they were supposed to be keeping tabs on al qaeda?
 
Wizard said:
Secondly, how can I possibly know who covert intelligence operatives are? Can you name a single covert operative who currently works for American intelligence agencies?
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no, but we arent accusing any intelligence agents of being involved in illegal activities either
 
Wizard said:
Firstly, I wasn't referring to 9/11 specifically.
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This has always been about 9/11, don't try to evade the issue.

I asked you what was the foreknowledge about.

Secondly, how can I possibly know who covert intelligence operatives are? Can you name a single covert operative who currently works for American intelligence agencies?
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I'm not talking about individuals of course. I'm talking about agencies.

Who was behind the false flag operation and who was monitering them?

Understand?
 
"He came here to insult people. The 9/11 topic is just a catalyst that gives him a launching pad for the insults.

Maybe he had a bad day at work, maybe he's an abrasive person"

Indeed, my co-workers have launched an offical complaint!

You’re just as silly as your cohorts. Look kid, I admit I’m not exactly a model citizen, but what are you? I shudder to think of your personal life. Frankly, I’d rather not.

The truth is, 911 is the goofiest story “they” have tried to pass off on an unsuspecting populace I've ever heard. It would take a profound moron to gel with the “evidence trail” of M. Atta. I repeat: a profound moron.
 
Morphology said:
Belgium had a particularly noxious unit. They put on masks, strolled into supermarkets and gunned down old ladies and children – for a good cause, of course.
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Lol. If you're referring to the Bende Van Nijvel, they never discovered who was behind them. You don't have clue what you're talking about.
Morphology said:
Sure. War games serve as a “conduit”, as well as a means of plausible deniability (the first rule of intelligence).

Oklahoma had a drill, 911 had several “hijacking” drills involving drone aicraft
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Wrong, there were two (related) war games being or to be conducted on 9/11 by NORAD. Neither of them involving "drone aircraft". And they actually helped their response.

Take a look at Gumboot's thread, he summed it up nicely:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70300
 
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Morphology said:
Wow. I’m starting to believe in the incompetence theory by sheer virtue of reading this forum. My romantic view of human nature has been changed utterly. People really are stupid.

I urged you dolts to use Google but you didn’t listen. A simple search provides the following:

(snippity massive snip - if you need to see the original, click the quote link above)

Were you then.
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Ok, so what does all that really prove. The military practices for more than hi-jacked aircraft. These exercises are part of a larger package. If the only things the military practiced for were hi-jackers crashing into buildings then you would have a tiny shred of evidence. You left out all the arctic exercises preparing for the Soviet Army to come crashing over the Yukon (well prior to the collapse of the Soviet Union) and other similar exercises for events that never happened.

The planning for Afghanistan occurred because of past terrorist attacks. Exercises occurred for many scenerios in the middle east and eastern Europe, Asia, and anything else that could be imagined.

As it turned out, as we discovered in 1979 or 1980, we didn't know enough about performing operations in the middle east and plans were developed to remedy that deficiency. Then in the 1990s we had to put some of that practice to practical use.

We haven't put everything we practice to use, and much of what we have had to do we never practiced for. What does the seeming coincidence that the brass saw a threat from the terrorists, including attempts at toppling tall buildings via various methods, have to do with the handful of exercises the military tried to get a handle on such things as a hi-jacking of an airplane and subsequent crash into a building really mean? Diddly.

Actually, ...

It means that a few of the many things they practiced for finally happened. As it turned out, they still weren't ready for it.
 
Morphology said:
The truth is, 911 is the goofiest story “they” have tried to pass off on an unsuspecting populace. It would take a profound moron to gel with the “evidence trail” of M. Atta. I repeat: a profound moron.
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You're trying awfully hard to get suspended aren't you?

BTW, if the 9/11 conspiracy was so obvious and moronic, why did "they" risk it?
 
defaultdotxbe said:
no, but we arent accusing any intelligence agents of being involved in illegal activities either
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Nor did I. And if i;m not naming names I certainly can't be accusing anyone.

His question was pathetic. A stamp of the foot because I gave a reasonable answer to his question.
 
Please keep this Nut Around !

Ahh….

Can’t help myself.. must waste my time and wade in here.

Wizard… I sorta like you .. at least you make a realistic attempt to support your inane position .. there may be hope for you yet. Concentrate on the complete absurdity of 911 being a CT and you may come to some realisation, honestly examine all the things that HAVE to have come together MIRACULOUSLY for this to be pulled of as a CT !

Consider this … the classic CT argument about the “War games” .. on one hand it “confused” the situation.. on the other it made the authorities MORE able to act quickly .. but they “didn’t” anyway.. CT’s hold completely contradictory views at the same time !

MORPHOLOGY

Please don’t ban this guy in spite of his insults and inanity he is extremely entertaining.

He is either :

1. Pulling all your chains.. and going by the gazillion responses to his initial diatribe.. doing it very successfully
2. Is a complete cretin who cannot decipher reality from his own childhood fantasies.

Either one is funny… I lean towards a bit of a combination.. but hope he actually falls into the second camp.

It is hilarious to think that someone who considers themselves “intelligent” like this idiot clearly does is actually so ridiculously stupid that it almost beggars belief… the irony is delicious !
 
Pardalis said:
This has always been about 9/11, don't try to evade the issue.

I asked you what was the foreknowledge about.



I'm not talking about individuals of course. I'm talking about agencies.

Who was behind the false flag operation and who was monitering them?

Understand?
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No you asked how foreknowledge could exist without islamic terrorists and I gave you a scenario. Do you now admit that a scenario exists whereby foreknowledge is present but real terrorists arent?
 
Morphology said:
"He came here to insult people. The 9/11 topic is just a catalyst that gives him a launching pad for the insults.

Maybe he had a bad day at work, maybe he's an abrasive person"

Indeed, my co-workers have launched an offical complaint!

You’re just as silly as your cohorts. Look kid, I admit I’m not exactly a model citizen, but what are you? I shudder to think of your personal life. Frankly, I’d rather not.

The truth is, 911 is the goofiest story “they” have tried to pass off on an unsuspecting populace. It would take a profound moron to gel with the “evidence trail” of M. Atta. I repeat: a profound moron.
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Baboons do not have co-workers.

You used the word "moron". As a baboon, I'm assuming your handler feeds you a banana pellet if you press the correct brightly-colored insult button?

Of course you cannot read this, but your handler will "sign" it to you.

The consensus here is still that you have NOT proven your NON-baboonity to our standards of satisfaction.

Have another pellet...
 
Wizard, operatives were working on the false flag operation, right?

Other operatives were monitering threats to the US, right?

So the foreknowledge evidence, should be about a covert US operation, not an Al Qaeda terrorist plot, right?
 
Wizard said:
No you asked how foreknowledge could exist without islamic terrorists and I gave you a scenario. Do you now admit that a scenario exists whereby foreknowledge is present but real terrorists arent?
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That is not what I asked. I asked what the 9/11 foreknowledge was about. You still haven't answered that.
 
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