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Third Eye Spies

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A 2019 documentary attempts to open your mind to the possibility of unexplained physics... and perhaps becoming psychic yourself.

Call it paraphysics, remote viewing, ESP.... Recently declassified documents now let us investigate why the government [and governments around the world] (taxpayers) have spent so much money on psychics over the years.

Director Lance Mungia has a list of clips on his YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdG1wVmQNtQ&list=PL7-br8H39mzQLupeWTf4UKWzTwfjL9jLM
..but the film will cost you $9.99 on Amazon. I just watched it.

https://thirdeyespies.com/

Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBokQomPr_g

Banned TEDTalk about Psychic Abilities | Russell Targ:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBl0cwyn5GY

Russell Targ's ESP Trainer app for iOS devices:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/esp-trainer/id336882103

Is the answer quantum nonlocality, entanglement? "Spooky action at a distance" invoked by our brains?

Or has dogma got you, as 1973 Nobel Prize in Physics and ESP/consciousness researcher Brian Josephson PhD suggests?

If you bypass the urge to hold up your hand in denial or to giggle, you can begin researching with the 2017 book by Pulitzer Prize finalist Annie Jacobsen, Phenomena: The Secret History of the U.S. Government's Investigations into Extrasensory Perception and Psychokinesis. Buy it at Powell's. You can learn a few things about this website's founder, too. JREF....

Mr. Randi would urge you to disregard this topic because his nemesis Uri Geller is involved. His feats of psychokinesis aren't expressly validated in the film, but his remote viewing is, as seen in this Stanford Research Institute video from 1972:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ajipw8LrNo

Geller's work with Israel's Mossad is openly stated (a fact sidestepped in Phenomena), though the film doesn't go much into his life and work map dowsing for one million pounds a pop for petroleum and mining companies (for a sum of roughly $35.75 million in 2017 dollars according to Jacobsen, p. 332).

Numerous proofs of remote viewing are offered. Will you accept the data and investigate, or turn away until the topic is socially acceptable for open discussion?

How do you guys ignore remote viewers Pat Price, Joe McMoneagle, and Ingo Swann?

'A large body of reliable experimental evidence points to the inescapable conclusion that extrasensory perception does exist as a real phenomenon,' the CIA concluded in 1975.
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- Annie Jacobsen, Phenomena, p. 6, quoting the author's FOIA, CIA: "An Overview of Extrasensory Perception," Jan. 27, 1975.

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A promising method of unhackable, undetectable Mainland-to-submarine communication was abolished due to lack of rabbits.
 
Many of the names mentioned in the OP are like a who’s who of “people who never met an item of woo nonsense they didn’t like.”

That anyone could take anything associated with Geller seriously..... Taxes belief.
 
MattNelson said:
Mr. Randi would urge you to disregard this topic because his nemesis Uri Geller is involved. His feats of psychokinesis aren't expressly validated in the film, but his remote viewing is, as seen in this Stanford Research Institute video from 1972:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ajipw8LrNo
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Wasn't the SRI testing when they did things like put him in a soundproof room that actually had at least one good sized hole in the wall? I vaguely recall reading that in one book or another.
 
Armitage72 said:
Wasn't the SRI testing when they did things like put him in a soundproof room that actually had at least one good sized hole in the wall? I vaguely recall reading that in one book or another.
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Indeed.
Marks and Kammann found evidence that while at SRI, Geller was allowed to peek through a hole in the laboratory wall separating Geller from the drawings he was being invited to reproduce. The drawings he was asked to reproduce were placed on a wall opposite the peep hole which the investigators Targ and Puthoff had stuffed with cotton gauze. In addition to this error, the investigators had also allowed Geller access to a two-way intercom enabling Geller to listen to the investigators' conversation during the times when they were choosing and/or displaying the target drawings. These basic errors indicate the high importance of ensuring that psychologists, magicians or other people with an in-depth knowledge of perception, who are trained in methods for blocking sensory cues, be present during the testing of psychics.[69] Marks, after evaluating the experiments, wrote that none of Geller's paranormal claims had been demonstrated in scientifically controlled conditions, concluding that "Geller has no psychic ability whatsoever. However, I believe him to be a very clever, well-practiced magician."[69]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uri_Geller#Scientific_testing
 
https://xkcd.com/808/

"If it worked, companies would be using it to make a killing in..."

Curiously the only people earning a living from ESP phenomena are the ones making money from trying to bamboozle mugs into thinking there might be ESP phenomena.
 
A number of years ago, I saw Uri Geller performing his usual magic tricks on an infomercial promoting a psychic phone line. At one point, he used "remote viewing" to reproduce a drawing made by someone on the show. They made a big deal about the guy being a former FBI agent, repeating it over and over, as if it were relevant. Not only was Geller perfectly positioned to read the movements of the end of the pencil as the picture was drawn, the man had eyeglasses with large, extremely reflective lenses. The glare was very noticeable on TV. I'm sure it was just a coincidence that, when the man drew a right triangle, Geller drew a triangle that was a mirror image.
 
MattNelson said:
Or has dogma got you, as 1973 Nobel Prize in Physics and ESP/consciousness researcher Brian Josephson PhD suggests?
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It is simple, either it works or it doesn't.

As of now the data says it doesn't.


If you bypass the urge to hold up your hand in denial or to giggle, you can begin researching with the 2017 book by Pulitzer Prize finalist Annie Jacobsen, Phenomena: The Secret History of the U.S. Government's Investigations into Extrasensory Perception and Psychokinesis. Buy it at Powell's. You can learn a few things about this website's founder, too. JREF....
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Or we can wander over the the CIA's declassified document files and read for ourselves...like this one:

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00791R000100030062-7.pdf

By the way, everybody knows the CIA did research through various universities in the 60's and 70's, so this is not a revelation, and simple joins a dozen other books on the subject.

Mr. Randi would urge you to disregard this topic because his nemesis Uri Geller is involved. His feats of psychokinesis aren't expressly validated in the film, but his remote viewing is, as seen in this Stanford Research Institute video from 1972:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ajipw8LrNo
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Can you really call the guy a nemesis when he went down in an embarrassing blaze of glory on live TV the ONE time he met Randi?

More like a speed bump.

Geller's work with Israel's Mossad is openly stated (a fact sidestepped in Phenomena), though the film doesn't go much into his life and work map dowsing for one million pounds a pop for petroleum and mining companies (for a sum of roughly $35.75 million in 2017 dollars according to Jacobsen, p. 332).
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I have the utmost respect for Mossad, especially their mastery in the use of con-men to achieve results instead of just killing people.

Numerous proofs of remote viewing are offered. Will you accept the data and investigate, or turn away until the topic is socially acceptable for open discussion?
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I don't know, would you be willing to take "It's not real" as an answer?

How do you guys ignore remote viewers Pat Price, Joe McMoneagle, and Ingo Swann?
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Easy. The Notre Dam Cathedral in Paris is burning as I write this.

Show me the advanced warning from any of these men, and you will have my attention.
 
MattNelson said:
Banned TEDTalk about Psychic Abilities:
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Ooh, a banned TED Talk. The TED Talk that they don't want you to see!

Except for the fact that, as literally anyone who follows your link can see, this was not a TED Talk. It was a lecture by someone who claims that they were supposed to be involved in a TEDx event. TEDx is the minor league of TED Talks. Much more local, not nearly the big names of the TED Talk events. And this wasn't even one of those - it was this guy's own talk, coupled with a claim that he was banned by TED or whatever.

It's sad that we missed the chance to hear the eloquence of someone who wrote this:

word salad / beat poetry said:
My story with TED is a chapter in a tale that involves the cusp we are on between the materialist paradigm that is failing us and the life-sustaining one that is to come. It has to do with the constricting hold the Skeptics have on evolutionary progress, with their tentacles not only into TED but into WIKIPEDIA, too. These are icons of cultural thought and we all are suffering, getting skewed senses of what really matters. Only some “ideas worth spreading” get out at TED, and only some people realize how our understanding is being manipulated.
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Jack by the hedge said:
https://xkcd.com/808/

"If it worked, companies would be using it to make a killing in..."

Curiously the only people earning a living from ESP phenomena are the ones making money from trying to bamboozle mugs into thinking there might be ESP phenomena.
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Axxman300 said:
It is simple, either it works or it doesn't.

As of now the data says it doesn't.




Or we can wander over the the CIA's declassified document files and read for ourselves...like this one:

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00791R000100030062-7.pdf

By the way, everybody knows the CIA did research through various universities in the 60's and 70's, so this is not a revelation, and simple joins a dozen other books on the subject.



Can you really call the guy a nemesis when he went down in an embarrassing blaze of glory on live TV the ONE time he met Randi?

More like a speed bump.



I have the utmost respect for Mossad, especially their mastery in the use of con-men to achieve results instead of just killing people.



I don't know, would you be willing to take "It's not real" as an answer?



Easy. The Notre Dam Cathedral in Paris is burning as I write this.

Show me the advanced warning from any of these men, and you will have my attention.
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"Third Eye Spies" doesn't give many examples of remote viewing ahead in time. One story highlights a bet on silver. Here's a clip from the WSJ article. Instead of using the fortune-telling connotation with the word "psychic" you should use "remote view," because most of the so-called psychic accounts are in the present. Edit, of course there's more: Here's a video with Ed Dames, a founder of Remote Viewing, predicting a major disaster in Seattle, among other things: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJiu1GOZLX4
Using knowledge of the Cascadia Earthquake of 1700, estimated as high as 9.2, and a quick Google of the Juan de Fuca Plate, a disaster in Seattle is indeed likely within the next 50 years. Experts warn in the next 50 years there's a 1 in 3 chance of 8.0 – 8.6 and 1 in 10 chance of 8.7 – 9.2 (per seismologist Chris Goldfinger), when “everything west of Interstate 5 will be toast,” according to Kenneth Murphy of FEMA. [New Yorker, "The Really Big One: An earthquake will destroy a sizable portion of the coastal Northwest. The question is when." 7/20/2015]

For the amount of screen time (and pages in Jacobsen's book Phenomena), Geller was really not a big player in the important history involving the Army and government agencies. If the "peephole" story is true, forget his SRI video. Apparently there's a bunch of reading involved tunneling to the truth with the skeptics involved. Pin.

Joseph McMoneagle, CW2, U.S. Army, Retired and Remote Viewer #001 of Project Star Gate did a book review that shames Jacobsen's work and notes that Geller's psychokinesis was never proven in the lab. (Published in the Journal of Scientific Exploration. I have not read this whole thing, since I just found it.)

I'm reminded of the movie starring George Clooney, "The Men Who Stare at Goats" (2009). Here's a short video "Goats Declassified" that interviews some people involved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbbtiCbPPts
Definitely a mix of "new age" stuff, but that was the era.
 
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