Thermitic Pyrotechnics in the WTC Made Simple

[Sunstealer]

These tests are not needed to find the thermite.

Why not?

 

[Galileo]

Actually, they are. Otherwise they have failed to back their claims on what they have found.

The truthers should be the ones demanding a proper series of tests, since success adds to the evidence of CD. however, all they have are unverified claims.

Actually, they are not. It has been over 7 years since 9/11. If what you say is true, a scientist would have published a paper on that by now.

 

[zooterkin]

Actually, they are not. It has been over 7 years since 9/11. If what you say is true, a scientist would have published a paper on that by now.

On what, exactly? Do you even know what you're saying?

 

[Galileo]

As shown by Mackey, they accept anybody as a reviewer regardless of their specialty. The credibility of the review process is nil. So you can shout "peer-reviewed" all you want, it holds no water. The fact that the journal has a whole 12 articles proves how irrelevant it is. So, until it's peer-reviewed in an established journal, you have nothing.

Mackey has shown nothing. Anyone can post on JREF. You don't even have to get it peer reviewed or pay a measly $600.

Mackey's assertions have no merit. This has been demonstrated. This explains why no one will publish his findings in a real per reviewed scientific journal; his assertions are worthless.

 

[beachnut]

Mackey has shown nothing. Anyone can post on JREF. You don't even have to get it peer reviewed or pay a measly $600.

Mackey's assertions have no merit. This has been demonstrated. This explains why no one will publish his findings in a real per reviewed scientific journal; his assertions are worthless.

You have Jones and Hoffman; go save the world and find out how stupid the ideas of Jones and Hoffman are.

Please pick something Hoffman and Jones say and defend it with evidence. You have no evidence.

Jones paid to publish junk science; why do you like the failed ideas of two people with insane ideas on 911?

It is NOT about:

* theories about chain-of-custody

* theories about the Bentham Scientific journal

* theories about Dr. Steven Jones or the other scientists

Moderators; please delete any posts that are not germane to this thread. Thank you.

There is no chain-of-custody! Failed paper.
The paper was published in Bentham because real journals don't publish fantasy ideas from dolts making up junk science.
There is no theories about Dr Thermite Jones, he made up thermite to fool people gullible and without the ability to use science, logic, or sound judgment.

You are like Jones you have to leave out things your think make your delusion sound better.

 

[Dog Town]

Mackey has shown nothing. Anyone can post on JREF. You don't even have to get it peer reviewed or pay a measly $600.

Mackey's assertions have no merit. This has been demonstrated. This explains why no one will publish his findings in a real per reviewed scientific journal; his assertions are worthless.

The funny thing about this, is:

We (JREF debunkers) wagged the dog on this one. Wanting the twoofers to publish their pathetic excuses for science, in a peer reviewed journal. Having stipulated more than once, it be a respected journal of what ever expertise required. Knowing BS would be shot down, in a legitimate review. Yet still demanding they do so. Then if published, after a proper review, they would have something.
Hell reporters would be lining-up for a Pulitzer!

What do they do?:
An end around, and vanity publish, their garbage. Now, screams of we did it!
Sadly they missed the point,AGAIN, and still FAILED!
Even in the back of their twisted little minds, they have to wonder,WHY?!!!100llolll!!!

 

[Thunder]

OK truthers, let me ask you this.

If you DID indeed find thermite...what the hell are you doing on JREF talking about it??

why aren't you spending every waking hour trying to get this on the MSM?

why arent you trying to get this into newspapers, tv shows, ads, etc etc??

what the hell are you doing wasting your time, in the JREF 9-11 section, where we think all your theories are crap??

why aren't you taking your ideas to folks who dont have strong views on 9-11, like we do, so you might actually be able to convince them???


dude...if I found 100% proof that the CIA killed JFK..the LAST PLACE I would be bringing this info to.....is JREF!!!

 

[Jackanory]

The scientists found them.

RUST AND PAINT!

Isnt it funny how all that debris, material and dust spread throughout Manhattan (probably quite a bit of it remains today) yet it took the Nutty Prof to acquire a dubious sample from an ex resident who just happened to keep a sample???????????????

Inthat case, go scrape any window ledge, gutter, grassed area, tree hollow, subway, crevice etc and you should still be able to find your 'Thermite smoking gun'.

Try the water supply, try the clothing from the thousands rof people in the area (im sure someone kept it somewhere).

The possible sources for locating/finding 'Thermite' are seemingly endless, yet all you can find is rust and paint - does that tell ya something Gallileo?

How about the medical services dealing with the lung problems? Have they discovered anything intheir research of the dust? Any Thermite? No!

Just another mindless theory delivered by the nutty professor and his cronies!

 

[FineWine]

I am directing my question to everyone on the JREF forum.

I'm no expert, but it's easy to know more than you do. According to the Popular Mechanics book, the pressure of tons of rubble insulated the material under the pile and allowed it to "cook."

What about your magic thermite? How does it keep a fire going for three months? Does anyone else know about these amazing properties of thermite?

 

[Thunder]

Don't answer my question with a question.

Why did the fires burn underground for over three months, despite all the water dumped on it?

This should be good.

The "fires" were burning for 3 months? There was oxidation of flammible material under the rubble..for 3 months?

There were flames and smoke....from fire...for 3 months???

Surely you jest.

I think you mean, very very hot metal and other materials..for 3 months.

There were NO "fires" for 3 months.

Why did it stay so hot for so long? Are you aware of what kind of heat 300,000 tons of material causes? Are you aware that great mass and friction causes great heat??

Are you aware of any of this Galileo???

 

[FineWine]

I said the thermite explains the super-hot spots detetected by NASA thermal images, the reported molten steel, the molten steel seen dripping from WTC 2, and the fact that the fires burned underground for 14 weeks.

It explains why hundreds of people heard explosions prior to the destruction of the three towers. It explains what Barry Jennings, Michael Hess, and Willie Rodriguez heard. It explains why WTC 7 fell down, even though it did not have any jet fuel in it nor had any fireproofing dislodged.

The explosive residue was analyzed and reported on by Dr. Steven Jones a few years ago. Now his discovery has been confirmed by an international team of scientists.

The scientific team found that the residue was indeed from thermite.

Right now, dozens of other scientists are doing research for many other papers putting the explanations I just made into scientific language for peer review. Other scientists are revisiting the scientific papers already published by the Journal of 9/11 Studies for publication in other scientific journals.

That is the future, my boys.

When it becomes clear that none of this is actually happening, what is your next trick?

 

[Galileo]

OK truthers, let me ask you this.

If you DID indeed find thermite...what the hell are you doing on JREF talking about it??

why aren't you spending every waking hour trying to get this on the MSM?

why arent you trying to get this into newspapers, tv shows, ads, etc etc??

what the hell are you doing wasting your time, in the JREF 9-11 section, where we think all your theories are crap??

why aren't you taking your ideas to folks who dont have strong views on 9-11, like we do, so you might actually be able to convince them???


dude...if I found 100% proof that the CIA killed JFK..the LAST PLACE I would be bringing this info to.....is JREF!!!

Galileo does not back down from challenges. I think I'll have better luck here since the MSM is controlled by the CIA.

 

[FineWine]

wrong. The nano-thermite was placed inside the WTC, on the core columns next to the elevator shafts, every other floor, in column rose 5, 6, 9, and 10. Thermite was also placed in the corners of the WTC every 25 to 20 floors.

No, there was no thermite in the WTC. You have been led astray by people who have established that they are frauds.

 

[Jackanory]

Galileo does not back down from challenges. I think I'll have better luck here since the MSM is controlled by the CIA.

oops!

Time for bed Galileo, mummy wants to read you a story - night night sweet heart

 

[FineWine]

To all you lurkers out there...

Can you find all the tactics used on this thread against Galileo's?

38 ways to win an argument

Or from ...

How to debunk just about anything

See how many of those you can find in all the responses on this thread. Once you have gotten all that chaf out of the way then you can get down to really seeing this discussion.

*Note: I am not supposed to point out these tactics, as it angers them to not be able to use them with impunity.

As for the paper that Galileo linked to, it is a nicely written summary of some of the key facts from the Harrit Thermitic materials paper. Take the time to read it.

Take the time to explain why the team of frauds will never submit their amazing "discovery" to an independent lab for confirmation.

 

[332nd]

Galileo does not back down from challenges. I think I'll have better luck here since the MSM is controlled by the CIA.

So... You don't care about getting this theory to the public. You don't care about telling the world the truth about 9/11. You just want to score points on an internet forum... Wow.

 

[FineWine]

Wrong - Bentham is a peer reviewed scientific journal. They publish thousands of papers by thousands of scientists. There is nothing to debate on the subject.

http://www.bentham.org/

Why do you keep making a claim that has been shown to be false?

 

[FineWine]

These tests are not needed to find the thermite.

What would you conclude if Jones compared his dust sample with the red paint used at the WTC and found the two to be identical? Why do you suppose Jones will never consent to this simple test?

 

[nicepants]

So... You don't care about getting this theory to the public. You don't care about telling the world the truth about 9/11. You just want to score points on an internet forum... Wow.

Isn't that what ALL truthers want?

 

[Galileo]

No, there was no thermite in the WTC. You have been led astray by people who have established that they are frauds.

A scientific team found the thermite.