Merged Theory links Newtonian/Quantum the amazing Frank Znidarsic

[ben m]

Frank's classical radius of the electron shows that the fields of matter are pinned into the structure of matter at that classical radius of the electron like you pin fields in to a superconductor by adding discontinuities. With that model you get the phase velocity equals the velocity the phase velocity equals the velocity of light the group velocity equals the movement of the structure and all of special relativity emerging under that condition
Looking at the Compton frequency, the De broglie wave being the Doppler shifted reflected Compton frequency emerges naturally from this model out of that condition

More gibberish.

True or not?

the speed of light in a BEC is adjustable down

In certain BECs you can select a narrow wavelength band---very, very narrow---and adjust the speed of that light and nothing else. There is no unusual distortion of the speed of other frequencies, or of other particles. So what? All transparent materials change the speed of propagation of certain wavelengths---glass, water, air, diamond, etc. BECs just do it to an unusual degree.

There is certainly no distortion of the fundamental constant known as the speed of light. For example, if you're measuring the time-dilation of muon decay, and you need to calculate 1/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2), the value of c is 3e8 m/s as always---it makes no difference whether the muon is in vacuum, in glass, or in a BEC.

 

[MattusMaximus]

what is the mechanical equivalent of a gluon?

It certainly isn't a phonon... phonons are an acoustical phenomenon, whereas gluons are the particle which mediate the strong nuclear force. Your question seems to want to compare apples to oranges.

 

[MattusMaximus]

Frank's classical radius of the electron shows that the fields of matter are pinned into the structure of matter at that classical radius of the electron like you pin fields in to a superconductor by adding discontinuities. With that model you get the phase velocity equals the velocity the phase velocity equals the velocity of light the group velocity equals the movement of the structure and all of special relativity emerging under that condition
Looking at the Compton frequency, the De broglie wave being the Doppler shifted reflected Compton frequency emerges naturally from this model out of that condition

Does anyone want some dressing with this word salad?

Seriously, JCM, none of what you wrote here makes sense.

 

[mike3]

What's in the brackets!>??!?!?!>?!>!!>?@>?
But wait I thought all of this was IMPOSSIBLE?

How do you find out the value for the charge Q???

 

[MattusMaximus]

How do you find out the value for the charge Q???

Energy upon mass?

 

[JCM]

It certainly isn't a phonon... phonons are an acoustical phenomenon, whereas gluons are the particle which mediate the strong nuclear force. Your question seems to want to compare apples to oranges.

what I meant was

nucleons acting as marbles and looking at the forces in between them like phonons

and that

the electrical force balances the nuclear force

to get the

propagation of waves

equating to the

velocity of sound within the nucleus

 

[TubbaBlubba]

Energy upon mass?

 

[MattusMaximus]

what I meant was

and that

to get the

equating to the

Umm... no.

 

[JCM]

Umm... no.

What do you mean how is it not true when you view the model as analogous to nucleons acting as marbles and looking at the forces in between them like phonons (that is they are when the electrical force balances the nuclear force resulting in the propagation of waves) these phonon like waves yield the velocity of "sound" within the nucleus

this "velocity of sound" equals the propagations in the electron environment

 

[ben m]

What do you mean how is it not true when you view the model as analogous to nucleons acting as marbles and looking at the forces in between them like phonons (that is they are when the electrical force balances the nuclear force resulting in the propagation of waves) these phonon like waves yield the velocity of "sound" within the nucleus

this "velocity of sound" equals the propagations in the electron environment

JCM, please spend the necessary time to construct coherent sentences next time.

If you're trying to advocate for this theory ... well, you're doing a good job of making it sound like crackpottery. "With friends like these, who needs enemies?"

 

[RussDill]

Does anyone want some dressing with this word salad?

Seriously, JCM, none of what you wrote here makes sense.

I know, lets see, we have JCM world-salad and links to youtube videos. I wonder how many people have actually watched youtube videos.

I don't know about anyone else, but I absolutely hate watching youtube videos of explanations of anything. Just give the text, and some diagrams if necessary. Things like footnotes then fit in nicely.

 

[RussDill]

I don't think its an accident that there is only one google result for "propagations in the electron environment". I'm sure you all can guess what the result is.

 

[JCM]

JCM, please spend the necessary time to construct coherent sentences next time.

If you're trying to advocate for this theory ... well, you're doing a good job of making it sound like crackpottery. "With friends like these, who needs enemies?"

I was thinking this as well haha. I have gotten ahead of myself and enjoy the jrefs ability to help refine my viewpoint to something more coherent or at least logically presented

I know, lets see, we have JCM world-salad and links to youtube videos. I wonder how many people have actually watched youtube videos.

I don't know about anyone else, but I absolutely hate watching youtube videos of explanations of anything. Just give the text, and some diagrams if necessary. Things like footnotes then fit in nicely.

I can provide a rough powerpoint Znidarsic made and the papers and the video below which is Frank himself. I obviously cannot offfer a summation for a damn so I will not

I don't think its an accident that there is only one google result for "propagations in the electron environment".

Its hard to find the 1.32fm proton radius too.

This is Znidarsic's 25 minute Lecture at John Hopkins only himself speaking. The lecture is old
Part One
Part Two

 

[Evilgiraffe]

Its hard to find the 1.32fm proton radius too.

I'm not surprised. The radius of a proton is 0.84184 fm. Published in Nature last year.

Linky

Pohl et al, Nature, 466, 213-216

 

[JCM]

I'm not surprised. The radius of a proton is 0.84184 fm. Published in Nature last year.

Linky

Pohl et al, Nature, 466, 213-216

Thanks for that I explained a little earlier I mean the edge of fuzz as it were isn't the .84 is the density ignoring the whole?
Georgia State University states

but really its 1.36fm
references for the 1.36fm
Nuclear collective excitations in Landau Fermi Liquid Theory
Bao Xi Sun
Institute of Theoretical Physics
College of Applied Sciences
Beijing University of Technology
PACS numbers 21.10 Re, 21.30, Fe 21.65-f, 71.10 Ay

J Physique 48 (1987) 1479=1491
Classification
Physics Abstracts
24.10C -24.10 H - 25.70 C
Microscopic analysis of nucleus-nucleus elastic scattering at intermediate energies
B. Bonin

Whops they list it at to ^-1 but that is momentum space of course

This speed of sound of the nucleus has nothing to do with sound waves its just being used as an analogy to mechanical waves

Force Max = Right up until the coulombic barrier
coulombic barrier being R_c also the classical radius of the proton
with two protons

So 2 R _c is also the classical radius of the electron
F_max between two repelling protons is 29.05 newtons

which is

Plug that back into

and it's close to

meaning the FSC is

 

[JCM]

And with these equations you can ge tthe orbits of the hydrogen

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Solving for R we get

bracketed being radius of the hydrogen atom

 

[JCM]

Two things:
1) Looks like Bisahdi got a new posting name.
2) I dont see how this links Newton and the world of the Quanta.

Dont know Bisahdi

Newton comes in here

to find the radius of the Muonic atom 285fm

 

[Tubbythin]

... and that sound speed is much faster than 10^6 m/s. It's something like 3x10^7 m/s.

I found an abstract suggesting 0.04c, ie, ~10⁷ m/s. Either way its bigger.

Compression that makes sense, phase transitions in the electron cloud I am not sure of. feel free to correct me.

Nope, no idea what he is talking about here.

 

[JCM]

Nope, no idea what he is talking about here.

Here is everything in a pdf
http://www.wbabin.net/ntham/davis.pdf
it explains why the electron doesn't ever crash into the nucleus

 

[JCM]

Papers Conclusion

I have shown how the three major aspects of quantum nature can be formulated from the ground up in a few simple steps. Furthermore, I have shown that this is the only model which truly shows the reasoning for how the trio of intrinsic lengths (r-_e, lambda-_e, and a_o)are all related by the fine structure constant, and I've also shown how the fine structure constant and Planck's constant are in reality both made up of two forms of constituent constants. The two basic equations to describe each are both in terms of the fundamental constants. Even the mass of the electron can be expressed in multiple ways with these fundamental constants, and doesn't require experimental measurement. The immense amount of equalities listed in this paper show beyond any reasonable doubt that the new constants introduced by Znidarsic (ct, Fmax, rc) are not coincidental. The relationships that they comprise are real and insurmountable. Furthermore, this model sheds light on why the electron cannot crash into the nucleus, as one would expect. The electron has to transition from parent state to daughter state through the transitional (collapsed) subset of the wavefunction. There is no collapsed transitional wavefunction smaller than ground state transitional orbital (rc for the hydrogen atom), because that is the smallest multiple that it can be; only positive integers are allowed for the factor of n. Because there is no transitional state for it to transition to from the ground state, in essence; there is no daughter state for it to transition into during it's transitional (collapsed) wavefunction progression. This essentially locks the electron into the ground state orbital (it can only jump higher, not lower), rendering it into a state of perpetual motion; that if left undisturbed, will stay in motion until the end of the universe. This paper is the rst time in history that a theory for true causation has been given to explain this phenomenon, and although the novel theories presented in this paper would be nonexistent without Frank Znidarsic's groundwork, the collapsed transitional wavefunction theory is this author's contribution that leads us to glean this understanding of the mechanism for why electrons cannot transgress past the ground state energy level. Furthermore, this model gives an explanation for why the electron transitions from one orbital to the next, instead of transitioning straight from an orbital level higher than 2, down to orbital level 1 (a0). This is because the orbitals have to transition from parent state to daughter state via the transitional ollapsed wavefunction subset. Each collapsed transitional wavefunction is modeled as its own individual spring. These separate springs are not congruent; they can only transfer to the immediately neighboring energy level through the transitional subset. Once one transition takes place, there is a discontinuity because of the dierent springs relating to the dierent static/transitional orbitals. A photon representing the jump from only a single energy level is released as the transition in the energy level of the atom is made. A new probability of transition is then related to daughter orbital, and a new corresponding transitional subset. After over one hundred years of complete mystery (compounded by willful ignorance) regarding the causations which give birth to the quantum mechanical nature that is undeniably observed, the rst look past the simple mechanics of quantum nature to the explanations for causation; the rst true look at quantum physics has taken root and begun to sprout.