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SOdhner said:
Well, if you want to take the passive approach, yeah. I prefer to take an active hand in my destiny - I think we should destroy all the technology ourselves rather than waiting for some rock.

In addition to that, any asteroid that manages to wipe out technology on a global scale will likely eliminate humanity and not leave us able to look forward to anything at all.
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We're like roaches...someone somewhere is gonna crawl out of a heavily secured bunker.
 
King of the Americas said:
We're like roaches...someone somewhere is gonna crawl out of a heavily secured bunker.
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If it's something that some dude in a bunker can live through then it will only ruin technology in some relatively minor and local way. If it's enough to wreck things all around the world then humans are done for. A few would survive in bunkers, yes, but they would die underground rather than ever being able to come back to the surface safely.
 
SOdhner said:
If it's something that some dude in a bunker can live through then it will only ruin technology in some relatively minor and local way. If it's enough to wreck things all around the world then humans are done for. A few would survive in bunkers, yes, but they would die underground rather than ever being able to come back to the surface safely.
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I disagree.

I think there are caves and bunkers large enough to support man's re-emergence after an astroid impact.

I guess that outcome really depends on the size of the impact...

Either way, I think the threat of our elimination, would spawn a visit.
 
King of the Americas said:
Okay...things happened, before people could write and RECORD literal 'history'... History, in my mind, is the pursuit of past truths. Evidence of which gets more scarce and harder to verify as authentic, everyday. In some old societies, people lives for hundreds of years, using only verbal messages past down for generations. This too is 'history'.

Our history, the 'story' of how we 'stepped out of nature' is lost to us, or I guess the best way to put it is "we've mis-interpreted religion, mythology, and our history..."

THERE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN LOTS OF US EVERYWHERE.
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If as you yourself have done, you cite as "history" the biblical story of the creation of mankind, then is it not abundantly, ridiculously, glaringly obvious even to the most imperviously, stubbornly, obliviously ignorant wretch that at that time there cannot, possibly, by any stretch of the imagination, even diving into the murkiest depths of the mythopoeic miasma of mystical muddle, have been "lots of us everywhere?" There were, by that very account, none of us anywhere. If there were any of us anywhere, then the account itself is utterly and completely false, and thus shown to contain not the tiniest jot or tittle of historical usefulness. If it's true, it cannot be history.

History, whether it happens orally or in writing, is intentional. Tall tales, scriptures, jokes, songs, myths, legends, art and decoration, etc., may be mined carefully for historical fact, but they are not themselves history, and it is a serious mistake to take them for "history with errors." They are, and always will be, something other than history, created for purposes that may or may not have been compatible with historical accuracy, and must be deconstructed or interpreted accordingly. To suggest that the biblical story of man being created in God's image has any historical usefulness is utterly, unfathomably ridiculous.
 
bruto said:
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... To suggest that the biblical story of man being created in God's image has any historical usefulness is utterly, unfathomably ridiculous.
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OR it is a confabulated story about E.T.'s selecting our ancient ancestor, and giving them a hand up the evolutionary ladder...
 
King of the Americas said:
I think there are caves and bunkers large enough to support man's re-emergence after an astroid impact.
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I'm not sure what the size of caves would have to do with it.

King of the Americas said:
I guess that outcome really depends on the size of the impact
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Right - either it's big enough to destroy all our technology all around the world, OR it's small enough for Earth to still be hospitable to humans.

King of the Americas said:
Either way, I think the threat of our elimination, would spawn a visit.
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Well, there's Plan C!

Plan A: Stare at the sky, maybe during the Olympics.
Plan B: Revert to the Bronze Age
Plan C: Become a super villain and threaten to kill everyone.

Hmm. I'm now going to shift more towards plan C, because if it fails I can easily use my Doomsday Beam to enact Plan B. If that one doesn't work either, I guess maybe we can try Plan A if I'm not too busy ruling over all my minions.
 
Just in from outside. I waved to the sky. Nothing happened.

I think they've left us for ever.

EDIT: Hey, what you know. I was wrong. They were there, and I just got royally probed!
 
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King of the Americas said:
OR it is a confabulated story about E.T.'s selecting our ancient ancestor, and giving them a hand up the evolutionary ladder...
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There is absolutely nothing in the story of the creation that implies this. In fact it contradicts this, by its inherent and forceful assertion that there is only one God, and that this God created the first humans without forebears, without relation to other creatures, from clay and a rib, and animated them with his own breath. If something else was meant, it is not said. All you have done is to imagine an utterly unsupported explanation and impose it on the story. Even if, by the wildest coincidence, your imagined explanation were correct, it would not, in any possible way, qualify the story as history, because a story that is not history, and not intended to be history does not become more historical by pretending it says something else.

I have to add that this part of this thread is coming close to convincing me there really are space aliens among us, because it is hard to credit your assertions to human intelligence.
 
BTMO said:
So... just to clarify, WHY do you think that 3.3 billion, or three people, or giant chicken scratchings on the desert floor or anything else will actually attract the aliens?
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In a world where a religious myth of Jehovah forming a man out of dirt and breathing on him is a historical allegory for a race of itinerant saucer gods giving evolution a boost, anything is possible but the likely, anything reasonable but the logical, anything meaningful but the words. The granite of delusion is impervious to all but the carbide tip of fantasy.
 
bruto said:
In a world where a religious myth of Jehovah forming a man out of dirt and breathing on him is a historical allegory for a race of itinerant saucer gods giving evolution a boost, anything is possible but the likely, anything reasonable but the logical, anything meaningful but the words. The granite of delusion is impervious to all but the carbide tip of fantasy.
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There's more than one creation story...
 
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