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Merged Their Return

King of the Americas said:
You can call them flying purple people eaters, but that won't mean they answer when called...

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS IN THE AIR:

-Over L.A. in 1942
-Over D.C. in 1952

I only know that it was 'something', advanced and non-human.
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Something = Pterodactyls. Advanced Pterodactyls.

Believe!
 
This morning when I was driving to work, I saw fireworks off in the distance.

"Fireworks?" I thought. "At 6:00 AM?"

I tried to look closer, but the fireworks disappeared. Then I saw a flicker of light in the same vicinity.

Only as I got within a hundred feet or so did I realize I was looking at a "marquis" message board, one that flashes programmable messages such as "lane closed ahead" or "Amber alert". It was dark and almost invisible against the sky behind it. What I had seen was reflections from car lights, made sparkly by the texture of the board.

It made me realize that no matter how many ways I can think of for the eye to be tricked into seeing something in the sky that isn't there, there are probably hundreds more that I hadn't thought of.
 
EHocking said:
Ah. I see you went back and reread the OP.
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Psiload just posted that The Olympic Committee just added "a moment skyward" to the Opening Ceremonies, due to Dr. Michio Kaku's suggestion...

I have not confirmed this.

Personally, I couldn't be happier about this, or being in the same mindset as the good Dr.

I feel a little honored that I was on the right track.

SUCK IT SKEPTICS!

Well, you can suck it, as soon as I verify this is actually true.
 
Halfcentaur said:
Alien 1: "Commander, these humans have been obsessing over finding life on another planet for over a century of their time now, they are constantly creating new stories of elaborate scenarios imagining us, while sending signals pleading for other species to communicate with them, even going so far as to send invitations into space within probes. We see them on the internet, bickering over the truth of our existence. Should we not say hello, sir?"

Alien 2: "No, lieutenant. You see, there are very specific protocols in place. They must accept on pretty much faith alone by looking at dozens of events in their history that we exist and are waiting for them to formally ask us in a large group to make contact. There are rules you know. The dots must be connected by those few insightful individuals willing to do so, who then must convince the rest of them to trust in these insights. And they must all ask us at the same time."

Alien 1: "Oh. I hope they make another Star Trek movie. "
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You mean Julien May got it right all along. Cool, do we get psychic powers too? That would be cool!
 
King of the Americas said:
Psiload just posted that The Olympic Committee just added "a moment skyward" to the Opening Ceremonies, due to Dr. Michio Kaku's suggestion...

I have not confirmed this.

Personally, I couldn't be happier about this, or being in the same mindset as the good Dr.

I feel a little honored that I was on the right track.

SUCK IT SKEPTICS!

Well, you can suck it, as soon as I verify this is actually true.
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I was joking.

Joke noun.

1. Something said or done to evoke laughter or amusement, especially an amusing story with a punch line.
2. A mischievous trick; a prank.
3. An amusing or ludicrous incident or situation.
4. Informal
a. Something not to be taken seriously; a triviality: The accident was no joke.
b. An object of amusement or laughter; a laughingstock: His loud tie was the joke of the office.
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carlitos said:
And yet this silly request received serious responses.
Waterman said:
So the OP wants us to speculate how to entice an assumed non-human intelligent race that lives in the near proximity of earth to reveal themselves to us. Unfortunately they have hidden themselves so well that we only have fleeting glimpses of them and know nothing about their nature or motivations. I am still reading this thread sorry if this is currently irrelevant.

IF we assume that they are grooming us for fodder and DNA source material I would think that like attracting bird to land, or a raccoon to visit your porch you might place out a big bowl of food out in plain sight perhaps shine lights on it. Any large sporting event could also be applicable.

IF we assume that they are really super intelligent and are looking for peers not subjects. It would also be reasonable to also think that they will see through our clumsy attempts at appeasement and see us as the backwards race we are and not worthy of revelation yet. Perhaps they will reveal themselves once they have determined we have advanced far enough mentally. The appeasement / adoration you imply would clearly indicate to them that we are not ready.

IF we assume that they are a bunch of joy riding hot rods that get a kick out of coming down every now and them to buzz some small group out in the middle of nowhere. Then there is probably nothing we can due to entice them, they get their kicks out of being mysterious and don’t want the spot light. If they did they would have already taken center stage somewhere. The World Cup Finals would have been an excellent opportunity. As pointed out if they did descend it would turn ANY event into a major event and all eyes would be turned in that direction.

IF we assume that they are waiting for us to reach some sort of mental level that has abandoned superstition and that their revelation will not cause worldwide panic. I would imagine that they would be waiting for a large majority of us to adopt a scientific mindset instead of a superstitious one. The best way to get them to descend would be to have the majority of the world to abandon religions and convert all the Houses of Worship into sometime more useful like parking lots, brothels or play grounds.

IF we assume that they are allergic to or find poisonous the trace byproducts of the burning of fossil fuels then they will not descend until we move completely to alternate energy methods and then atmosphere had been cleansed through natural processes.

IF we assume that they are out there and want to deal with humans on a business level perhaps they are already doing that. But they know that by revealing themselves they will cause significant damage to the economy and cause significant instability in the political realm. This would not be a problem is the majority of the world was largely under the sway of say a large corporation or a one world government. They are waiting on the New World Order or Wal-Mart to come to power so they only have to negotiate one treaty instead of hundreds.

IF we assume that they have developed sensory organs that can detect the radio frequency range they will probably not descend until we abandon that technology or they develop filters that do not affect their ability to communicate.

IF we assume that they find the odor of concrete or asphalt offensive that would explain why they never actually land in cities or populated areas. To get them to descend we would need to tear down all the concrete structures and rip up all the asphalt and find alternate construction methods and materials.

IF we assume that they really don’t care what we do or think and are nothing more than lab animals or pets, I think that anything that we do would solicit no more than a note in a technicians log book or an ‘isn’t that cute’ from a more kind hearted individual… if they have hearts…

If we assume that they actually feed off the psychic energy generated by emotional turmoil the best way to get them to descend would be to establish world peace. This would cause them to starve and force them out. However if this is the case they would probably do something to destabilize the Peace that has been established by setting themselves of as the enemy that we can’t reach. Perhaps they would operate covertly with targeted assassinations turning body guards on their charges when they appear too reasonable, initiate riots to destabilize governments, plant evidence of WMDs to instigate wars, fund fundamentalist organizations of all stripes to keep us at odds with each other and destroy our common round, call in to talk radio shows…

Whee that was fun.
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Waterman said:
Well that would largely depend on three factors:

1. Why did they remove themselves from the surface?

2. Why have they chosen not to reveal themselves publicly before?

3. What is it they want from us ultimately?

At this time the evidence is tenuous regarding thier existance but we have granted that for the sake of discussion. Once we have established some real information not just speculation about at least one of the factors above perhaps we might stand a chance of coming up with a reasonable plan.

If we are just playing pretend we can have some fun with lots of plausible things that answer the question. However if you want to make this an actionalable plan then please provide for the board the data (not just speculation) you have regarding how you have arrived at an answer to the questions above.
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Thanks Carlitos I was about to go back and dig this up.

I actually did try to play the game you told us you wanted to play and was essentially dismissed because none of my ideas conformed to the one you already had in mind. Please let me know why these ideas on the methods that could be employed to get them to descend will not work? Or why your method is any more reasonable? So far it appears that you are implying that they have some sort of Victorian Era style protocol for requiring ‘formal’ invitations and that they will be obligated to respond in some manner. Isn’t that a bit of selective anthropomorphizing? On what do you base this line of reasoning, other than you own sense of propriety?
 
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King of the Americas said:
You SUCK.

That is like giving someone a fake lottery ticket...

:(
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As I noted somewhat earlier on this thread.

EHocking said:
This is the root of the problem.

You have a tendency to accept things told to you or read by you at face value with little critical analysis, and then argue the point here as though the story you've heard or read is "true fact".

You then accuse anyone who disagrees with your "facts" as being ignorant.
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So the remake of 'V' should have gone-:

Exterior L.A. Present day

A giant spaceship appears in the sky, on the ground no one looks up or takes any notice.

Cut to

London, as above, giant spaceship, oblivious population

New York

Hong Kong

Paris

Tokyo

Interior Bad CGI Spaceship Control Room

Anna/Diana: "Bugger, no-one was looking up. Let's go invade somewhere else!"

THE END



(If the Sci-Fi Channel are reading this I'm avaliable for writting work!:D)
 
King of the Americas said:
Psiload just posted that The Olympic Committee just added "a moment skyward" to the Opening Ceremonies, due to Dr. Michio Kaku's suggestion...

I have not confirmed this.

Personally, I couldn't be happier about this, or being in the same mindset as the good Dr.

I feel a little honored that I was on the right track.

SUCK IT SKEPTICS!

Well, you can suck it, as soon as I verify this is actually true.
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ROTFLMAO. You will believe anything,wont you?
 
King of the Americas said:
So, lets pretend for a moment that all the anecdotes ARE accurate, that history IS a depiction of gods descending from the heavens, and that this is what people are seeing when they witness a U.F.O. The debate is over they exist.
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http://www.ufocasebook.com/1988bjhamilton.html

In October of 1988, I had an experience with some creatures I called "blue robots." They were living, sentient beings, wearing blue overalls even, but their movements were robotic in nature, and I was under the impression they were acting under orders, doing what they had been told by someone else. I went along with what they wished, knowing what was expected of me without the use of speech. I had total freedom of movement.
I was inside a circular metal room, about 20 feet in diameter, aboard what seemed to be a spaceship. I stood still and watched while the little blue robots swarmed all around me, only as tall as my waist. There were approximately six beings in my immediate vicinity and others running errands in other parts of the room. They were communicating with one another and very busily running back and forth, doing their work, which somehow involved me.

I knew they wanted to "operate" on me, and even though I couldn't be sure, I assumed it would be an easy, outpatient type of procedure. I had picked up this bit of information by listening and observing. I remained calm and patient, more curious than afraid.

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I then realized that the hole being drilled was not into the back of a television set, but into the back of my head! Within the week, I had developed a lump in the same location on the back of my head. I went to a local doctor (a general practitioner) who said I had a cyst that could be removed with surgery, or I could just let it sit there and, if it bothered me, he could prescribe pain medication.

I let the cyst sit there for about 15 years--in 2003, I had a doctor remove it. It appeared to be a mass of fatty tissue (what a benign, sebaceous cyst would normally look like).
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Why did the gods drill into Ms. Hamilton's head? What did they place there other than fatty tissue?

http://www.ufocasebook.com/1985strieber.html

Whitley Strieber is one of the most well known UFO researchers in the area of alien abduction, and alien implants. His well known book, "Communion" is a UFO classic. It was also made into a movie by the same name.

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He was soon shocked to see a creature in his bedroom.

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He recalled that he had been "floated" out of his bedroom and into a waiting UFO. He would see four different types of alien beings, one a small, robot type of being, secondly, a short, stocky type, the third was very slender and weak looking.

It had mesmerising black eyes that slanted, and the last being had black, button eyes.

He was subjected to medical testing by these aliens. One of these was the insertion of a needle into his brain, and another involved an object being inserted into his rectum.
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Why did the gods anally probe Mr. Streiber?
 
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